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Re: What kind of libertarian are you?
Reply #20 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 10:22pm
 
Richard Enderle wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:40pm:
You believe a truly intelligent, but not quite wealthy child should be allowed to have an education. This is possible in America's current system, and can be moreso in a free system. If you want to get a PHd in the sciences, you will actually get PAID to go to school. Of course, if you want an education, you have to get a technical one. Liberal Arts education is for when you have enough money.


I don't know... why do I feel like our education system works out better than yours even though our government is more involved? :|

Our private schools are funded per student, so if they want more funding shouldn't they be making it as cheap as possible so they'd have more students?.

I look forward to an "egalitarian society" where everyone has equal opportunities, but not equal results (That's why I don't like inheritance). Public education solves this problem somewhat.

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2 - A government should not "discourage" people from anything other than force or fraud. You mentioned pollution. Since air can not be privately owned, and can affect everyone, then if the pollutants in question are objective (not like Carbon Dioxide), then a pollution tax would be acceptable. But more should be done than just "discouragement".


So if you can be convinced that global warming due to human causes is a significant risk then you'll agree to a tax on carbon, (and the revenue used to support carbon-offsetting industries, not for some other new thing the government wants to do). That sounds okay.

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I never thought I would have to argue how dangerous political collectivism is to a supposed libertarian.

There is no society. There are only individuals.


Do you mean to say everyone has no friends, no family, no neighbors, no familiar faces? I think this is where all our differences stem from. There's no point talking about anything else .
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Re: What kind of libertarian are you?
Reply #21 - Mar 20th, 2010 at 3:57am
 
What kind of Libertarian am I?

The kind who realizes that some kinds of loss of liberty are worse than others, and that some kinds of problems have no clear solution, Libertarian or otherwise. I believe that our task, therefore, is to identify the biggest problems and then to develop Libertarian solutions to them which we can all agree on and which, therefore, should be sellable to the majority of people.

I am 100% for getting the government out of the business of enforcing morality. Morality is, by definition, personal and not public, even though many demagoguic politicians will insist that they will enforce "public morality". The most blatent problems in this regard involve modern marriage and divorce law, in which the government commits the dual offense against the people's liberty of mixing civil Law and religion, then using the result as an excuse to relieve people of their assets to then give them to their spouses based on some arcane, primitive notion that "when two people marry they become one". Obviously this is not true, so we have to include fraud among our indictments.  To me, therefore, getting the government out of marriage should be the number one priority of Libertarianism. Property rights are the most important liberty we have, and should never be abridged without clear, documented proof that someone clearly owes assets to another or has obtained them in the first place by fraud. 

Beyond this I believe that the next most important task for Libertarians is putting a stop to the mentality that the U.S. must be the "world's policeman" and preempt all type of wild, speculative scenarios that would "certainly lead to catastrophe" if the militarists who now hoid power are believed. These scenarios are, in fact, only speculation which result in vast wastage of the people's money while, curiously, protecting foreign powers who pay nothing of the cost and enriching certain individuals and corporations.

Thirdly, I don't believe in welfare. Knowing that there is no guarantee that anyone will be taken care of if they fall on hard times  is exactly the motivation that prompted people to struggle as hard as they did to build this country and to build their wealth in order to be prepared for any eventuality. I believe that, if anyone is truly deserving and he has no family who is willing and able to help him, that voluntary charities or individuals will step up to assist.

Lastly, I do belive in public health services, because without this an epidemic could overwhelm the country and I cannot imagine a means by which private enterprise would, or could, serve this function.
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