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Re: The Most Dangerous Superstition
Reply #20 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 2:06pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 11:15am:
Why did you put quotations marks around the word, errant?  Are you implying Christians purposely killed 10 women and children in the name of their religion?


The quotation marks were around "errant" because the statist powers-that-be probably hit what they targeted and don't give a leaping lap-dance what the "collateral damge" was, but, adhering to a strict double-standard they go ape-shit when a US ambassador fronting for the CIA gets killed.
  
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Reply #21 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 2:30pm
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They don't care about collateral damage yet they engage in nation building?
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 5:29pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 2:30pm:
They don't care about collateral damage yet they engage in nation building?


They're statists.  State-building is very important, but individuals aren't.
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 5:59pm
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Isn't one of the reasons for drone strikes is to minimize collateral damage?
  
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Reply #24 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 6:22pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 5:59pm:
Isn't one of the reasons for drone strikes is to minimize collateral damage?


Could be one of the stated reasons, but the one I hear most is that it saves the lives of American soldiers.  What do you think about medals for drone operators killing people from play stations in Nevada and elsewhere in the US?   Not my kind of heroes.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/21/world/la-fg-drone-crews21-2010feb21
  
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Re: The Most Dangerous Superstition
Reply #25 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 7:55pm
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I'm all for getting out of the Middle East.  IMO, the whole war on terror was about getting the Middle East to embrace Democracy, dragging their asses into the 21st. century.  I say if they want freedom, they're going to have to fight for it themselves.
  
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Reply #26 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 9:25pm
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Drones are being used as a justification to minimize collateral damage. However, more innocent civilians are being killed than actual terrorists. Then when they're asked about it, they say, by killing the 'terrorist', it justifies killing those innocent lives. Furthermore, Chris Dorner was the first American citizen targeted by a drone. So now we've stepped into a realm of 'when is it 'OK' to target a US citizen with a weapon of war' and I, for one, don't like it.

More over, just a side point, the REAL reason we're in Afghanistan isn't because we were 'dismantling the threat of terror' or anything else. The reason we're there is because they've discovered a $1 trillion vein of lithium in Afghan. It's being called 'The Saudi Arabia of Oil'. Funny how Obama is pushing for 'green' energy all of a sudden, isn't it? Now it all makes sense why we bailed out those green energy companies, regardless if they were in ties with the government.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286464/US-discovers-natural-desposits-g...
  
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Reply #27 - Feb 15th, 2013 at 9:25am
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Yeah, and it's all part of the 9/11 conspiracy.
  
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Reply #28 - Feb 15th, 2013 at 3:33pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Feb 15th, 2013 at 9:25am:
Yeah, and it's all part of the 9/11 conspiracy.


That's just what I've heard, but I'd never had it confirmed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUZq6cjXjzs
  
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Re: The Most Dangerous Superstition
Reply #29 - Feb 19th, 2013 at 3:43pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 5:59pm:
Isn't one of the reasons for drone strikes is to minimize collateral damage?


That might be the intent but is hasn't worked out very well. Hundreds of innocent people have been murdered by drone strikes which as also used for extrajudicial executions in violation of US and International Law.
  
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