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Reply #10 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 10:59pm
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Crystallas wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 6:25pm:
We could name a turtle or a dolphin as the monarch.

Weird that you think kingship is so worthy of disdain! lol

I love 'Murica but I find the disdain of kingship perplexing here.
  

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Re: AnCap=Monarchy?
Reply #11 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 11:51pm
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Bourgeois wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 10:59pm:
Weird that you think kingship is so worthy of disdain! lol

I love 'Murica but I find the disdain of kingship perplexing here.



I guess I would consider it, if I were the king of the whole country.
  
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Reply #12 - Feb 25th, 2013 at 1:23am
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Crystallas wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 11:51pm:
I guess I would consider it, if I were the king of the whole country.

I would consider it if I wasn't king, because true symbolism of authority is necessary. Of course, the king would only have legal authority over his actual private property.

I'm an "authoritarian." I believe in private property authority.
  

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Reply #13 - Feb 25th, 2013 at 1:33am
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Bourgeois wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 1:23am:
I would consider it if I wasn't king, because true symbolism of authority is necessary. Of course, the king would only have legal authority over his actual private property.I'm an "authoritarian." I believe in private property authority.


"Every man a king" and every woman a queen.  That's what individual sovereignty is all about.
  
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Reply #14 - Feb 25th, 2013 at 1:53am
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Tom Palven wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 1:33am:
"Every man a king" and every woman a queen. That's what individual sovereignty is all about.

Sure, I agree with individual sovereignty. That doesn't mean the symbolic sovereignty of right wing anarchy isn't necessary.

(Of course, I disagree that everyone is a king/queen, which is collectivist).
  

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Reply #15 - Feb 25th, 2013 at 2:39am
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Awesome wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 5:48pm:
If you're talking to me, then no. I am actually considering that monarchy is a system where everyone can follow the NAA. Before I became libertarian, I actually liked monarchy. (I thought for a while already that democracy is overrated.) So if monarchy and voluntarism are compatible, then that's good because that makes all my utopian theories go together well. Cheesy

Bro. You are just like me. From AK, loves anarchy and monarchy? How does that happen?

You also a traditionalist? If so, you and I have an instant bromance.

PS- I will share my theories on Anarcho-Monarchy with you at some point in this thread. It's basically the idea of a symbolic authority which represents many traditional virtues.
  

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Reply #16 - Feb 25th, 2013 at 4:18pm
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How does that happen?


Well, as early as elementary/middle school it irked me that democracy was so universally accepted. But I also hated socialism because my parents told me about life in the USSR and how pathetic it was (they were both raised there). I began to really like monarchy by high school. I thought that monarchy is way better than democracy because:

1) People who try to get into power don't deserve it. In a monarchy, power is "inherited" rather than "achieved."

2) Monarchs should be more responsible for debt and the like, because it's their money

3) From what I knew about the corruption in Russia with Putin, Luzhkov, and company, I couldn't imagine that happening with a king or czar.


Then, in high school, my dad (a minarchist) introduced me to libertarianism. Originally, I frowned upon libertarian ideas, with the same statist intuition that passing a law would prevent the evil from happening. Roll Eyes Although I didn't like socialism, I thought that fiscal policies "within reason" are OK. I only became libertarian recently (2011), during the "Ron Paul 2012" campaign. I hated the foreign wars so I listened to him a lot. After hearing that he is libertarian, I listened to him more and he (along with my dad) convinced me of minarchism. Then I "invented" anarcho-capitalism, and told about it to my dad. He said that it already exists, and everything has been made up for me already. He doesn't like it though and thinks it's utopian. Yep, that's my story.


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You also a traditionalist?

If you're talking about what the Wikipedia article on "traditionalist conservatism" describes, then sure, I do sympathize with that. I also like the "counterrevolutionary" label, because I hate the 1910's and all the revolutions in that decade (especially Russian Revolution, but also Chinese, the American "Progressive Era" was full of crap, etc. Woodrow Wilson was the worst president; we all know that.)
  

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Reply #17 - Feb 25th, 2013 at 5:06pm
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Bourgeois wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 2:39am:
You also a traditionalist? If so, you and I have an instant bromance.

Awesome wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 4:18pm:
If you're talking about what the Wikipedia article on "traditionalist conservatism" describes, then sure, I do sympathize with that.

You're both in Alaska (Unless it's just a ploy), it must be something in the water Grin

Damn road to nowhere, I blame this on Sarah Palin, haha!
  
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Reply #18 - Feb 25th, 2013 at 5:58pm
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Palin is pseudo-conservative because she supports "spreading democracy" (by way of genocide), which is an extreme leftist idea.
  

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Reply #19 - Feb 25th, 2013 at 6:25pm
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Maybe I didn't explain the joke good enough, maybe it would've been better if I said 'Damn road to nowhere, contaminating the water supply, I blame this on Sarah Palin'.

It was merely a 2-part rib.
  
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