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Reply #40 - Aug 5th, 2013 at 5:57pm
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Hits the nail on the head, please watch and let me know what you think.
  

"You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population." -Karl Marx
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Reply #41 - Aug 5th, 2013 at 10:14pm
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I called it in the first post. Gimme cookie.
  
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Reply #42 - Aug 6th, 2013 at 11:07am
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Crystallas wrote on Aug 5th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
I called it in the first post. Gimme cookie.


  

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Re: True Democracy
Reply #43 - Aug 6th, 2013 at 11:11am
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Proletariat wrote on Aug 5th, 2013 at 5:19pm:
Honestly, this has become a circular and overly theoretical argument between me and more people than I can keep up with. Let's get back to what libertarianism would look like in real life.

http://progressiveslogans.blogspot.ca/2011/08/50-reasons-libertarians-are-crazy....

"the following are the positions of some prominent and not so prominent libertarians going back to the 1970's... and yes virginia, they are batshit crazy"
legalize blackmail

legalize heroin, meth, & glue sniffing

sell off the national parks

legalize dog & thingy fighting

privatize the air you breath & the ground you walk on

abolish all licensing: ie if you want to be a doctor or lawyer run over to kinko's and have some business cards made up --- laissez faire suckers

allow for privatized segregation & discrimination (no jews, n*ggers, catholics, sp*cs, women, people over 50, gays, children allowed)

legalize insider trading

abolish animal cruelty laws

patent the dna of all life forms including humans

legalize child labor

declare smoking a celebration of capitalism

abolish the americans with disabilities act

legalize child selling

privatize and sell off the arctic & antarctic

abolish unions

replace state & federal prison guards with walmart like security

legalize voluntary slavery

abolish animal cruelty laws

believe FDR & EISENHOWER were communists

declare selfishness the ultimate virtue

re-introduce debtors prisons

allow individuals to own nuclear weapons or whatever armaments they want

abolish the anti-trust laws

sell off the rivers, lakes, & oceans of the world

make the poor, sick, & disabled depend on charity instead of the resources of the state

clone slaves out of your own dna

replace the federal reserve with a pc and a chair

let the insurance companies take over the judicial system

privatize outer space

denounce the idea of a "social contract"

establish exchanges for the buying & selling of human body parts (by paying living people & the families of the dead)

incentives for voluntary euthanasia of the old & poor --- (let granny sign her life away so the insurance company won't have to pay as much for medical or long term care)

abolish mandatory emergency room care

legalize extortion

abolish/limit medical malpractice suits

consider the non-payment of bills as cause for arrest and the use of lethal force

abolish public schools

establish private armies in place of the US armed forces

re-introduce 18th century style workhouses

abolish usury laws

claim that societies and even families don't exist --- only individuals

end compulsary education

allow the disemination of snuff movies & kiddie porn

let companies sue & imprison whistle blowers

legalize prostitution & decriminalize pimping

abolish social security & medicare

take the remaining native american lands and sell them off for pennies on the dollar

send mercenaries to seize nationalized businesses

* scream bloody murder when governments collect data yet defend corporations that collect, hold, and sell more data than any government has ever collected

What a free society this would be. No force, only voluntary association. I feel like communists should support libertarianism because it would let to extreme class polarization and maybe that international, workers revolution they've been promising us would finally take off.


You're posting garbage.

Your arguments are not initiating discussion, they are shutting down your own intellectual honesty. You might want to watch it. I posted something on the previous page you have yet to respond to.

Instead of trying to understand libertarians or the (I say again) WIDE SPECTRUM of libertarianism, you're posting facetious content from other web sties and Bill Maher.

Everyone on this forum is more than willing to have a proper discussion with you, but it takes two to tango. None of us want to engage in stupidity.
  

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Re: True Democracy
Reply #44 - Aug 6th, 2013 at 11:13am
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Proletariat wrote on Aug 5th, 2013 at 5:57pm:


Hits the nail on the head, please watch and let me know what you think.


We already discussed this here: http://www.libertariansforum.com/cgi-bin/freedom/YaBB.pl?num=1365614151
  
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Re: True Democracy
Reply #45 - Aug 6th, 2013 at 5:50pm
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