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Reply #10 - Dec 11th, 2013 at 7:21pm
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Liberalterian wrote on Dec 11th, 2013 at 6:58pm:
I don't see why you would want to. What benefits do they gain from being viewed as Psychotic?

But beyond that did you read my post?

Race Realism isn't psychotic, it is reality. I would raise my children to be right wing anarchists.

There is no benefit to being taught right thinking (as it is alienating), but it is the truth, and my children shall not live in the darkness of leftist lies.

I skimmed your post a bit, I was mainly referring to Shiva though.
  

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Reply #11 - Dec 11th, 2013 at 8:50pm
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Bourgeois wrote on Dec 11th, 2013 at 7:21pm:
Race Realism isn't psychotic, it is reality. I would raise my children to be right wing anarchists.

There is no benefit to being taught right thinking (as it is alienating), but it is the truth, and my children shall not live in the darkness of leftist lies.

I skimmed your post a bit, I was mainly referring to Shiva though.

I think that everyone is equal and should be treated fairly. This is reality. We'll have to agree to disagree. The idea that someone is worth less just because they happened to be born as a different race is ridiculous at best and insulting at worst.

As for you skimming my post, fair enough.

Also, what would you do if your kids DID become Über Leftists? AKA the next Stalin or Mao?
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 11th, 2013 at 11:21pm
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My kids would not be allowed to be leftists. I would literally kick them out of the house if they became leftists.
  

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Reply #13 - Dec 11th, 2013 at 11:40pm
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Bourgeois wrote on Dec 11th, 2013 at 11:21pm:
My kids would not be allowed to be leftists. I would literally kick them out of the house if they became leftists.

And then what happens? You would just be mad for the rest of your life?
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 12th, 2013 at 12:25am
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Liberalterian wrote on Dec 11th, 2013 at 6:58pm:
I don't see why you would want to. What benefits do they gain from being viewed as Psychotic?




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Reply #15 - Dec 12th, 2013 at 12:30am
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Liberalterian wrote on Dec 11th, 2013 at 11:40pm:
And then what happens? You would just be mad for the rest of your life?

They'd be disowned, yes.
  

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Reply #16 - Dec 12th, 2013 at 1:33am
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LibertariCAN wrote on Dec 12th, 2013 at 12:25am:

I don't see how. First off, I responded to Shiva's response to your thread. Then Bourgeois responded and I responded to him. How is there any derailment at any point?
  
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Reply #17 - Dec 12th, 2013 at 7:06am
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Liberalterian wrote on Dec 11th, 2013 at 6:00pm:
How do you prevent brainwashing and even determine a proper definition for this? Virtually anything could be deemed as "brainwashing". What if I tell my kid that he needs to work hard and earn his own money. This could be viewed as "brainwashing" by Communists who wish that everyone owned things communally and not have to earn money - they just own it.

Another example, what if I simply tell my kid that I believe in a God and that going to church is necessary to save my soul. Is this really brainwashing? What if the parent REALLY believes this 100% without a doubt? To him not telling the kid about this is child abuse since the kid is condemned to hell.

Thus it's really in the eye of the beholder. If we had Theocrats in charge then I guarantee you that you would not like them being in charge of determining what is and is not considered brainwashing. Thus it's best to generally leave it out of the state's decision. So long as no one is abused, you should not be charged.


While every child matures mentally at a different rate there are certainly general principles we can understand and accept. Simply morality lessons and safety lessons need to be instilled early in a child's life for example.

When it comes to much more complex subjects like philosophy, government, or economic systems it obviously requires a much deeper knowledge foundation before the child will be able to make informed decisions.

It would actually be relatively easy to test to see of a child was being brainwashed. If they are being taught religion do they know not just Christian beliefs but also Hindu beliefs? If they know about capitalism do they also know about socialism?

Of course I don't necessarily advocate interventionism by the State but that doesn't change the fact that brainwashong of a child is child abuse. We can also note that the claim the child is not harmed is also false because brainwashind does harm the child.

  
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Reply #18 - Dec 12th, 2013 at 7:20am
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Bourgeois wrote on Dec 11th, 2013 at 7:21pm:
Race Realism isn't psychotic, it is reality.


"Race" is a construct by society with the sole purpose of denying the equality of the Inalienable Rights of the Person based upon an invidious criteria the fully meets the definition of "psychotic" as it is reflects a derangement of the mind by those that believe that there is any race other than the Human Race.

Any person that is a "racist" is not really a libertarian as they are intellectually subjugating other individuals in society based upon an invidious critieria.
  
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Reply #19 - Dec 12th, 2013 at 10:48am
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Liberalterian wrote on Dec 12th, 2013 at 1:33am:
I don't see how. First off, I responded to Shiva's response to your thread. Then Bourgeois responded and I responded to him. How is there any derailment at any point?


Because where there's you and Bourgeois, this cat fight about race realism starts.

Besides, I wasn't actually offended, I was just kidding.
  

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