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Re: LP says get out of Iraq and Syria
Reply #10 - Nov 24th, 2014 at 4:02pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Nov 24th, 2014 at 11:01am:
That's a good answer for a statist, but imho it's not a libertarian answer.

Darn! I thought libertarianism was pretty basic to my thought processes. I guess I'm deluding myself?
Help me out, give me the "libertarian" answer. But, you already have, we should support the "rebels" and the "Peace and Justice Party". Because libertarians always support communists?
  
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Reply #11 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 3:34pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Nov 22nd, 2014 at 7:22pm:

Tom, you never did tell me if the Peace and Justice Party is communist or Islamist? What does Obama's State Dept. call them? What are they really? Does CBS like them?
  
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Re: LP says get out of Iraq and Syria
Reply #12 - Dec 3rd, 2014 at 3:20am
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Mookie al-Sadr has apparently been laying low and biding his time, but he's back, and he hasn't changed his tune:

http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/30112014
  
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Re: LP says get out of Iraq and Syria
Reply #13 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:31pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 3:34pm:
Tom, you never did tell me if the Peace and Justice Party is communist or Islamist? What does Obama's State Dept. call them? What are they really? Does CBS like them?


Reuters refers to them as "liberals." Sean Hannity calls them Islamo-fascists.  I call them libertarians because they espouse free market economics in addition to freedom and justice.

Take your pick.

They are in jail now.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/27/us-egypt-violence-idUSKBN0L01HQ2015012...

  
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Re: LP says get out of Iraq and Syria
Reply #14 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 2:13pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:31pm:
Reuters refers to them as "liberals." Sean Hannity calls them Islamo-fascists.  I call them libertarians because they espouse free market economics in addition to freedom and justice.

Take your pick.

They are in jail now.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/27/us-egypt-violence-idUSKBN0L01HQ2015012...


Economic liberty?
Here's a few lines from their plan for economic reform-

- Recognising the sanctity of public money and respecting private property, unless inconsistent with the public interest.

-  Gradual replacement of usurious institutions and transactions with Islamic ones.
  
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Re: LP says get out of Iraq and Syria
Reply #15 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 3:35pm
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I'll just re-post this:

MaxHen wrote on Nov 28th, 2014 at 3:08pm:
Their economic platform calls for price controls, progressive taxation, wealth redistribution, expanding unemployment benefits, implementing a public pension system, banning usury, and opposing privatization.

Their cultural platform calls for creating a board to regulate TV channels and broadcast programs, requiring that freedom of the press be in accordance with "public morality", and discouraging online viewing of "culturally invasive" material.

They may be better than al-Sisi, but it's ridiculous to say that they represent a "libertarian movement."

  
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Reply #16 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 5:20pm
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Tom is desperate for evidence that Muslims aren't every bit as bad as the American establishment.

Violence is best avoided, if possible, but in the case of Muslims (and blacks, etc.) you reap what you sow.

The only victims of imperialism that I am inclined to care very much about are the ones who don't belong to cults of belligerence.
  
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Re: LP says get out of Iraq and Syria
Reply #17 - Feb 1st, 2015 at 7:46am
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Jeff wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 3:34pm:
Tom, you never did tell me if the Peace and Justice Party is communist or Islamist? What does Obama's State Dept. call them? What are they really? Does CBS like them?


Reporters have just marked 400 days in an Egyptian prison under the al-Sisi regime which the US provided with $1.3 billion in military aid and $200 in economic aid in 2014.

http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/categories/media.html
  
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Re: LP says get out of Iraq and Syria
Reply #19 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:12am
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The US has decided to bomb Tikrit, Iraq.
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/03/25/us-launches-airstrikes-to-aid-iraq-iran-offen...

As with villages in Vietnam and recently in Kobane, Syria, will the air force have to destroy Tikrit "in order to save it?"
  
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