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A Monument to Courage is Planned
Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:01am
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Donations are being collected to create a bronze monument to include the statues of Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, Chelsea (Bradley) Manning, and an empty chair symbolizing the desire for another champion of truth and free speech to come forth.

http://rt.com/news/202631-snowden-assange-manning-monument/
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 5:32am
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Reply #2 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 8:20am
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Tom Palven wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 5:32am:

Obama commuted Manning's sentence. Not the same as a pardon.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:36am
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I'm willing to defend Snowden, from what I can tell his release of info was useful to the people of the US if damaging to the US government.

Manning just dumped what ever classified material she could get her hands on, I have little respect for her and she has pretty clearly committed treason and a few other crimes.

Assange, is a fool.   I'm not sure if he really believes all secrets are bad or he just wants to get laid by hippie chicks but he's no hero.  Either way, he made himself a tool of Putin.  These days, even the progressives hate him because he besmirched their great hero, Hillary and the Dem party. 

  
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Tom Palven wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 5:32am:

Seems to be part of an effort to get Assange in the US.  Not sure why that's important but there may be a reason.
  
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Re: A Monument to Courage is Planned
Reply #5 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 4:12pm
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ahhell wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:36am:
I'm willing to defend Snowden, from what I can tell his release of info was useful to the people of the US if damaging to the US government.

Manning just dumped what ever classified material she could get her hands on, I have little respect for her and she has pretty clearly committed treason and a few other crimes.

Assange, is a fool.   I'm not sure if he really believes all secrets are bad or he just wants to get laid by hippie chicks but he's no hero.  Either way, he made himself a tool of Putin.  These days, even the progressives hate him because he besmirched their great hero, Hillary and the Dem party. 


More information is better than less information. It's what makes a free press essential to Liberty.

That said, I agree with you.

Is there a name for someone who commutes the sentence of a traitor while refusing to prosecute known traitors? Oh, that's right, Obama.
  
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ahhell wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
Seems to be part of an effort to get Assange in the US.  Not sure why that's important but there may be a reason.

Like ahhell said, he made the 'progressives' look bad by exposing some of what they have been doing. 'Progressives' are bitter and vengeful, like the God of Abraham so to speak.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 19th, 2017 at 12:28am
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Tom Palven wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 5:32am:



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The soldier, who was convicted under the name of Bradley Manning and now identifies herself as a woman, attracted widespread support from privacy advocates and transgender activists who complained that she couldn't get the medical help she needed in the military prison in Leavenworth, Kan.


I read this as, "Treason is okay if you're transgender."

Newsflash: Everyone is transgender. Maximum one male and one female in the world are 100% cis. The rest aren't perfectly cis because they're not perfectly those people. Sexuality is different between any two people you choose out of all of the people on the planet. If you define Joe Normal's sexuality as perfectly masculine, no one else's is going to match his and no one else is going to be 100% masculine.
  

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Reply #8 - Jan 19th, 2017 at 4:33pm
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ahhell wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
Seems to be part of an effort to get Assange in the US.  Not sure why that's important but there may be a reason.
They want to either execute him, or give him life in solitary confinement... Unless he discovers he's really a woman...

It used to be prisoners discovered God... Now they claim God made a mistake, which seems possible to me.

Along that line, do you think Hillary could really be a man?

If she were imprisoned for life in solitary confinement, do you suppose a claim of being a man would help?
  
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Re: A Monument to Courage is Planned
Reply #9 - Jan 19th, 2017 at 4:52pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:01am:
Donations are being collected to create a bronze monument to include the statues of Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, Chelsea (Bradley) Manning, and an empty chair symbolizing the desire for another champion of truth and free speech to come forth.

You're it Tom. Speak the truth as you see it.
  
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