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Re: Ron Paul on ISIS and Ukraine
Reply #10 - Mar 8th, 2015 at 12:56pm
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Land of Freedom wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 2:44pm:
What are libertarian solutions to deal with Islamic terrorism?



We just marched in. We can just march out.

But it's not up to us (the mob) to over rule what the real mob (the government) does.
  

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Re: Ron Paul on ISIS and Ukraine
Reply #11 - Mar 8th, 2015 at 5:42pm
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genepool wrote on Feb 19th, 2015 at 4:21am:
Sometimes people need justice more than food.

Is that what Stalin said when 15 million Ukrainians starved?
  

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Re: Ron Paul on ISIS and Ukraine
Reply #12 - Mar 8th, 2015 at 5:52pm
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My solution to deal with "Islamic" terrorism is to treat it like any other terrorism. We pay billions of dollars in taxes each year in order to fund police organizations, and organizations to protect our nations borders from all sorts of invasions. They could easily do that, a lot more cheaply, if we weren't either 'defending', or invading, or occupying, countries all over the world.
A few terrorists will slip in. Usually they will do something stupid. Right now, our government agents notice the stupid things terrorists do, but the management seems completely unable to make heads or tails of the information they receive.

Obviously, we need some better people deciding what the intel means, and pursuing it.

There will always be homegrown terrorists too, (communists being the most likely), and they usually do stupid things too. They are most often inept, but they can hide in the under-cultures they've created.
When you have enough evidence, you arrest them, arraign them, try them and shoot them. Hanging might be a better idea.
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 1:09pm
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Daniel McAdams and Ron Paul on ISIS, Libya, and Ukraine:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/ron-paul-liberty-report-why-is-libya-going-...
  
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Re: Ron Paul on ISIS and Ukraine
Reply #14 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 7:07am
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I don't think there is any libertarian solution for ISIS or for mongol conquest.

In fact, such cases is the reason why I am not a full libertarian
  
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Reply #15 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 9:06am
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genepool wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 7:07am:
I don't think there is any libertarian solution for ISIS or for mongol conquest.

In fact, such cases is the reason why I am not a full libertarian

Of course there is. Liberty, limited government and free markets produce wealth, which allows for a strong national defense.
  

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Reply #16 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 7:37pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 9:06am:
Of course there is. Liberty, limited government and free markets produce wealth, which allows for a strong national defense.


A strong national defense requires a nation, a state, statism

However, you recently endorsed individual sovereignty elsewhere, which is incompatible with sovereign states and kingdoms.    ???
  
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Reply #17 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 8:46pm
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Tommy Palven wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 7:37pm:
A strong national defense requires a nation, a state, statism

However, you recently endorsed individual sovereignty elsewhere, which is incompatible with sovereign states and kingdoms.    ???

The fundamental structure of the U.S.A. is a limited government created by a free sovereign people.
We have given our government the duty to protect the nation and the means to accomplish that duty. It's statism to the point that the state must defend the nation and protect individual rights and liberty. That's why we created it.
  

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Re: Ron Paul on ISIS and Ukraine
Reply #18 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 11:37pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
The fundamental structure of the U.S.A. is a limited government created by a free sovereign people.
We have given our government the duty to protect the nation and the means to accomplish that duty. It's statism to the point that the state must defend the nation and protect individual rights and liberty. That's why we created it.


"We," Kemosabe?
  
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Re: Ron Paul on ISIS and Ukraine
Reply #19 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 9:12am
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Tommy Palven wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 11:37pm:
"We," Kemosabe?

Well, yes, like in "We the People...". That's how representative government works, and it's also why the Constitution includes Article V.
  

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