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Reply #620 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 12:18pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 12:06pm:
They knew exactly what they were doing.  With the new revisions to the constitution, they dashed any hopes of Democracy for the Cuban People.

And then Diaz-Canel had the cojones to call it "genuine democracy".

Diaz-Canel is a fool, because he thinks the Cuban People are too stupid to know that he is lying.

But they DO know he's lying.  So who really is the stupid one?


We'll see how it works out for Cuba's government?

One thing I know for sure it that the Cuban people are very receptive to any measures their government has ever taken to avoid US influence from coming in and running roughshod over their new democracy.

I should be surprised about a libertarian who upholds US government tactics in a situation such as this where the Cuban people are fighting for their independence from US influence through dirty tricks.

But I'm not at all with you. In fact you're a cheerleader for the same sort of US government interference in Venezuela.

While BobK echoes true libertarianism by stating that their blood is on US hands.

Grow up! Think before you start  babbling off again or posting a laughing mane in futility.
  
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Reply #621 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 12:19pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 12:06pm:
They knew exactly what they were doing.  With the new revisions to the constitution, they dashed any hopes of Democracy for the Cuban People.

And then Diaz-Canel had the cojones to call it "genuine democracy".

Diaz-Canel is a fool, because he thinks the Cuban People are too stupid to know that he is lying.

But they DO know he's lying.  So who really is the stupid one?


We'll see how it works out for Cuba's government?

One thing I know for sure it that the Cuban people are very receptive to any measures their government has ever taken to avoid US influence from coming in and running roughshod over their new democracy.

I should be surprised about a libertarian who upholds US government tactics in a situation such as this where the Cuban people are fighting for their independence from US influence through dirty tricks.

But I'm not at all with you. In fact you're a cheerleader for the same sort of US government interference in Venezuela.

While BobK echoes true libertarianism by stating that their blood is on US hands.

Grow up! Think before you start  babbling off again or posting a laughing man in futility.
  
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Re: Cuban And US Embassies To Be Reopened
Reply #622 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 2:32pm
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We'll see how it works out for Cuba's government?

One thing I know for sure it that the Cuban people are very receptive to any measures their government has ever taken to avoid US influence from coming in and running roughshod over their new democracy.


The Cubans who couldn't escape you mean?

Anyway, get it right, Castro wasn't a democrat, he was an "agrarian reformer", and it's a bit disingenuous to think Cuban Communism is something new. Cheesy
  
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Reply #623 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 5:14pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
The Cubans who couldn't escape you mean?

Anyway, get it right, Castro wasn't a democrat, he was an "agrarian reformer", and it's a bit disingenuous to think Cuban Communism is something new. Cheesy


All countries governments are capitalist in part. Cuba must ensure that there can be no US interference to reverse the positive effects of their successful revolution and so they will still have to move slowly and cautiously.

China is setting the example.
  
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Reply #624 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 5:34pm
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All countries governments are capitalist in part.

Tell us about the "capitalist" part of North Korea's government, thanks Thingy.

Then we can talk more. Maybe tomorrow if you think you are ready to tell us about at least one "right of the whole".

Get some sleep first. Kiss
  
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Reply #625 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:52am
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Jeff wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 5:34pm:
Tell us about the "capitalist" part of North Korea's government, thanks Thingy.

Then we can talk more. Maybe tomorrow if you think you are ready to tell us about at least one "right of the whole".

Get some sleep first. Kiss


All countries, even those that are termed to be 'communist' countries, need to trade with capitalist countries. And that then causes them to be a blend of communism/capitalism.

We can get into the details if you behave yourself.
  
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Reply #626 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 1:45pm
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All countries governments are capitalist in part.
A "partly capitalist government"... Meaning I guess that these days most all governments have taken ownership of some of the means of production, even if only through cronies?

As I keep telling your, "capitalism" in the sense that freedom loving people use it is simply the economic system people create when the have economic freedom. They work, they save, they invest, they start businesses, they trade freely with each other.

Governments don't do any of that.
  
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Reply #627 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 1:50pm
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All countries, even those that are termed to be 'communist' countries, need to trade with capitalist countries. And that then causes them to be a blend of communism/capitalism.


Yes, American banks loaned money to the Soviets so the Soviets could buy American wheat and prevent famines.

After North Korea had a few famines, they broke down and borrowed money from American banks so they could buy American wheat and avoid another famine.

You say that makes them "partly capitalist"? Cheesy
  
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Re: Cuban And US Embassies To Be Reopened
Reply #628 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 5:31pm
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The US Embassy is Cuba is down to a skeleton crew, now. (there were over 50 Embassy personnel during the Obama Administration.)

The sonic attacks forced the recall of US ambassadors so they could get proper medical care.  Some of those personnel who were affected have permanent auditory and nerve damage.

There are only 14 people left, so most Embassy functions are extremely limited.

No Cubans have been admitted to the United States as refugees since September 2017.

It is estimated that it could take 2 to 3 years to restart refugee operations in Havana.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article2168915...
  
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Reply #629 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 5:35pm
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This is pertinent I think-

https://www.cato.org/policy-report/julyaugust-2018/milton-friedman-prize-advanci...

Individual Cubans have not given up!
  
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