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Tommy Palven
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Delusional, anyone?
Oct 15th, 2015 at 6:38am
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I don't want to sound harsh, but anyone who thinks that the Fourth Amendment or any part of the Bill of Rights  is still somehow part of a US "social contract" has completely lost their ability to see patterns or trends, if they ever had that ability, and are simply brainwashed by the catechism that somehow Uncle Sam, or Jesus, or Big Brother loves them and trumps all that is negative.

http://ericpetersautos.com/2015/10/12/warrants-we-dont-need-no-stinkin-warrants/
  
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Re: Delusional, anyone?
Reply #1 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:43am
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Liberty and Freedom...

R.I.P.   Cry

  
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Reply #2 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:45am
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I think I should point out that your car is on public property when they search it. They could easily make you agree to these low thresholds of suspicion to allow you to use the roads, couldn't they?
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #3 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 1:13am
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:45am:
I think I should point out that your car is on public property when they search it. They could easily make you agree to these low thresholds of suspicion to allow you to use the roads, couldn't they?

By definition, public property belongs to the public, not the state. Your argument applies to state or private property, not public property.
  
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