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Reply #20 - May 24th, 2016 at 5:21pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 12:00pm:
I'm hoping they will ignore the name-recognition factor and choose the most popular candidate among Libertarian voters. 

No, you said you wanted McAfee to be the Libertarian Party candidate, because he's more 'pure'.
  

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Reply #21 - May 25th, 2016 at 11:50am
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Jeff wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 5:21pm:
No, you said you wanted McAfee to be the Libertarian Party candidate, because he's more 'pure'.


Touché.

But I expect demand the Convention Delegates to yield a nominee who the LP voters want - not what SkyChief wants.  That's their duty as representatives. The Libertarian Party doesn't have "super-delegates" so they cant really engage in the political shenanigans which the Dems enjoy.

IOW, if Petersen has 50% of the voters support, and Johnson has 30%, then it would raise some eyebrows if Johnson were selected as the LP nominee.
  
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Reply #22 - May 26th, 2016 at 8:13am
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SkyChief wrote on May 25th, 2016 at 11:50am:
But I expect demand the Convention Delegates to yield a nominee who the LP voters want - not what SkyChief wants.  That's their duty as representatives.

You're stuck on worrying about Libertarian Party voters when the LP hardly has any members.

I'm hoping the LP will run a candidate that the majority of all eligible voters will see as an acceptable alternative to the TwoParties candidates.
  

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Reply #23 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:41pm
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LPers of the US must now ally with GPers of the US; otherwise Republicans and Democrats are going to start exterminating or deporting or imprisoning Greens and Libertarians as scapegoats for propaganda and for "United" States "uniting".  We can work through our differences with GPers.
  
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Reply #24 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:01pm
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Despite your absurdly hyperbolic rhetoric, I largely agree.  GP and LP should cooperate to get greens elected in the solidly democratic districts where the LP doesn't have a chance and get LPers elected in GOP districts where the GP doesn't have a chance. If it works, they it would work to legitimize 3rd parties generally.  But we really can't cooperate on the presidency.
  
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Reply #25 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:03pm
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I believe we can cooperate to win the Presidency.  Voters will turn to way advanced efficient and effective leadership in 2,020, and by exchanging VPs of both parties, we will impress the voters, get their votes, and win the Presidency.
  
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Reply #26 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 5:09pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
I believe we can cooperate to win the Presidency.  Voters will turn to way advanced efficient and effective leadership in 2,020, and by exchanging VPs of both parties, we will impress the voters, get their votes, and win the Presidency.
It's the Green Lady who was running for President who is getting lots of airtime trying to prove how unprogressive Trump candidates for cabinet positions are, not Rand Paul.

A cooperative effort will require that libertarians get equal time, not no time.

But of course the Green Party gets the time because they are nothing but a tool of the 'progressives' and radically 'progressive' themselves.

The bottom line is that 'progressives' want libertarians to help 'progressives' get elected.

I won't even consider it until 'progressives' help some libertarians get elected. They can start by vigorously opposing ballot access laws. Introducing bills abolishing ballot access laws and voting for the bills they introduce. And publicizing them with marches in the streets.
  

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Reply #27 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:18pm
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ahhell wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:01pm:
Despite your absurdly hyperbolic rhetoric, I largely agree.  GP and LP should cooperate to get greens elected in the solidly democratic districts where the LP doesn't have a chance and get LPers elected in GOP districts where the GP doesn't have a chance. If it works, they it would work to legitimize 3rd parties generally.  But we really can't cooperate on the presidency. 


Indeed if all the small parties worked together, all the small parties would benefit.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #28 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 4:26pm
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The Green Party does oppose ballot access laws of which said ballot access laws hinder third parties' ability to gain ballot access in D.C. and in all 50 states.  I'm sure that prominent GP member known as katija gruene (formerly known as kat swift) would encourage GP members to vote for LP candidates of elections when there aren't GP members campaigning of those elections (not sure about PotUS & VPotUS, though; GPers & LPers could switch VPotUS candidates with each other for more unity and encourage voters to vote their mental and spiritual and political and emotional guidance).
  
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Reply #29 - Jan 22nd, 2017 at 10:48am
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 4:26pm:
The Green Party does oppose ballot access laws of which said ballot access laws hinder third parties' ability to gain ballot access in D.C. and in all 50 states.  I'm sure that prominent GP member known as katija gruene (formerly known as kat swift) would encourage GP members to vote for LP candidates of elections when there aren't GP members campaigning of those elections (not sure about PotUS & VPotUS, though; GPers & LPers could switch VPotUS candidates with each other for more unity and encourage voters to vote their mental and spiritual and political and emotional guidance).
The basic problem is in fundamental philosophies. The Greenies want governments to take control of everything because they think only government 'regulation' can stop people from destroying the earth.

Libertarians understand that property rights and free markets under a rule of law provide the best possible protection for the earth.

The Greenies are simply far too far away from libertarian ideals to ever appeal to libertarians.

At their philosophical root, Greenies are 'progressives'.
  

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