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Re: The Planet Money Presidential Platform
Reply #20 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 4:43pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Unfortunately too much socialism can cause those working to become obsessed and deranged with working and thus they make more mistakes because of that stress (or distress depending on how you, I, and others comprehend that).
That's one of the best arguments against "socialism" I've ever heard! Bravo!
  

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Reply #21 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 4:47pm
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Yes, we must get rid of biofuels and use perpetual motion machines or rechargeable capacitors or rechargeable batteries instead.

Also, we can have more technical jobs controlling & repairing & monitoring drone robots to do physical labor.
  
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Reply #22 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 5:22pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 4:47pm:
Yes, we must get rid of biofuels and use perpetual motion machines...

A swell idea... Are you some sort of scientist, like John Henry?
  

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Reply #23 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:13am
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I've studied physics and I do much reading. 

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Perpetual+Motion+Machines+The+History+of+an...

Also, how about a 10% sales tax on prostitution?
  
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Reply #24 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:18am
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Do you genuinely believe that perpetual motion machines work or is it just a really dry joke?
  
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Reply #25 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:20am
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Some socialism, i.e. payments for farmworking, are good because they inspire those people working on farms to do more work and that leads to more production (the anti-thesis of unproductive).  Unfortunately too much socialism can cause those working to become obsessed and deranged with working and thus they make more mistakes because of that stress (or distress depending on how you, I, and others comprehend that).
The real problem with farm subsidies(I assume that's what you are talking about) is the encourage too much production of some things at the expense of others and force most of us to pay for goods we don't want.
  
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Reply #26 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:58am
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Basic perpetual motion machines usually function by having their 2 opposite and equal reactions function against each other to cancel each other so that 2 actions can provide movement or power.  Here's a more complex example:


http://www.mordel.net/barandgrill.php?redirect=viewtopic&t=9757

Oh, I agree that each person mustn't have to pay for goods she or he doesn't want.  And when I typed "mistakes earlier, I meant "very evil mistakes".
  
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Reply #27 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:19am
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Are you familiar with the phrase, "there's no such thing as a free lunch" sometimes abbreviated as TANSTAFL.  More true in physics than it is in economics.  More accurately, perpetual motion devices do not function. 

While the faraday disk is a real thing, it is most definitely not a perpetual motion device. 
  
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Re: The Planet Money Presidential Platform
Reply #28 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:23am
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Most likely perpetual motion machines will be made in factories and sold for money.  So yes, I understand perpetual motion machines probably aren't given freely to other people.  The electric energy that perpetual motion machines is for free unless people pay electric bills for electricity that comes from perpetual motion machines owned by other(s).  United States Patent And Trademark Office employees have issued patents to persons that have invented functioning perpetual motion machines.
  
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Reply #29 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:29am
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:23am:
Most likely perpetual motion machines will be made in factories and sold for money.  So yes, I understand perpetual motion machines probably aren't given freely to other people.  The electric energy that perpetual motion machines is for free unless people pay electric bills for electricity that comes from perpetual motion machines owned by other(s).  United States Patent And Trademark Office employees have issued patents to persons that have invented functioning perpetual motion machines.

Citation please?  I should say, that issuing a patent for something doesn't mean it works either.  Also, why isn't someone using them to sell electricity to the consumers?  Wouldn't utilities make a lot more money if they didn't have to buy coal, oil, gas or build windmills and damns?

Actually there's really no point in this discussion, I'm hardly going to convince you that free energy devices are scams.   I suppose I might convince a passerby that you are wrong though.
  
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