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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #220 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:12am
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
I agree 100% with Jeff. 

Trump's Travel Ban is Constitutional because the ban is only applicable to people who are not in this country.

As you know, our Constitution only protects the people who are aleady here.  Ergo, vetting people who enter our country is perfectly Constitutional.

Also, as North Korea and Venezuela have been added to the list of countries named in the travel ban,, it can no longer be classified as a "Muslim" Travel Ban as North Korea and Venezuela are not Muslim countries.  (yet)


Being Constitutional doesn't make it libertarian.
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #221 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:37am
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Morris wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:12am:
Being Constitutional doesn't make it libertarian.
What is un-libertarian about trying to identify criminals, terrorists, people who want to destroy America and carriers of the Black Death and refusing to let them into America?
  
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Reply #222 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 12:27pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:37am:
What is un-libertarian about trying to identify criminals, terrorists, people who want to destroy America and carriers of the Black Death and refusing to let them into America?


It was intended right from the start as a ban on Muslims.

That old outdated constitution is a political toy that can be used, and is used for politics to suit the side that has the power to wield it. It's bastardized and irrelevant to the 21st. century.

As for this question, any court is a country that upholds human rights and decency would strike it down because of it being racist. Trump promotes that because he has been proven to be one and his followers love it. (Obama an American?)

If it isn't then it will be any reward Trump has given your country for the rest of the world to see.

I would have thought that 'you' of all the whackjob on this forum would have seen the light on this one at least?
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #223 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm
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That old outdated constitution is a political toy that can be used, and is used for politics to suit the side that has the power to wield it.
It's true that the interpretation of the Constitution that grants general powers out of whole cloth from the commerce and general welfare clauses is an abomination that has created our currently abominable government... But were aren't talking about those usurped powers.

We've been talking a about a specific power granted to Congress and the responsibilities of the Executive.
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #224 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am
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BREAKING NEWS

Today, SCOUTUS issued a ruling upholding Trump's travel ban.

Seven countries are affected:  Iran, North Korea, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Venezuela.


"This is a tremendous victory for the American People."  - Donald  Trump

"Today’s decision is critical to ensuring the continued authority of President Trump — and all future presidents — to protect the American people."   - A.G. Jeff Sessions
  
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Reply #225 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 12:08pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
BREAKING NEWS

Today, SCOUTUS issued a ruling upholding Trump's travel ban.

Seven countries are affected:  Iran, North Korea, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Venezuela.


"This is a tremendous victory for the American People."  - Donald  Trump

"Today’s decision is critical to ensuring the continued authority of President Trump — and all future presidents — to protect the American people."   - A.G. Jeff Sessions


This goes to further validate the world's suspicions on Trump's attempts to isolate the US and attempt to restrict trade with the US through unrealistic trade sanctions.

More and more, the countries of the world are beginning to summon up the history of how the Nazis resorted to the same tactics.

Why would an anti-establishment movement such as libertarians, not be aware of what is happening before their eyes?

Because they're rally all just American patriotic capitalists first?

It's not taking them long at all to lay aside their priorities they pretended were sacred to them. That's obviously because it never was sincere libertarianism.
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #226 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 12:26pm
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This goes to further validate the world's suspicions on Trump's attempts to isolate the US and attempt to restrict trade with the US through unrealistic trade sanctions.

You're probably right about this.   But don't lay it at the feet of libertarians.  We're not the ones who hired Trump.
  
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Reply #227 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 12:36pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 12:26pm:
You're probably right about this.   But don't lay it at the feet of libertarians.  We're not the ones who hired Trump.


Sorry Chief, there's not a one of you who hasn't built him up. And especially you!
And there hasn't been a word uttered against his politices.

That's all because to do so would be voicing support of me, and none of you can allow yourselves to do that.

Here's an idea: Why not start a poll on whether I should leave the forum or not. I promise to abide by the decision if it's a convincing majority.
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #228 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 12:52pm
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Sorry Chief, there's not a one of you who hasn't built him up. And especially you!

baloney.

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Here's an idea: Why not start a poll on whether I should leave the forum or not. I promise to abide by the decision if it's a convincing majority.

Polls don't work on this forum because the sample group is too small.  Typically, only 3 or 4 people will respond to a poll, rendering them meaningless. 

You can start one if you like.  Threads about forum members bore me, so I ignore them.
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #229 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:03pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
baloney.

Polls don't work on this forum because the sample group is too small.  Typically, only 3 or 4 people will respond to a poll, rendering them meaningless. 

You can start one if you like.  Threads about forum members bore me, so I ignore them.


You've managed to talk yourself into confusion over Trump. You're posting praise of his tactics continuously, at the same time as you have to pretend you oppose his nonsense.

You're mine Chief! Just as much as my boss is mine now.
  
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