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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #220 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:12am
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
I agree 100% with Jeff. 

Trump's Travel Ban is Constitutional because the ban is only applicable to people who are not in this country.

As you know, our Constitution only protects the people who are aleady here.  Ergo, vetting people who enter our country is perfectly Constitutional.

Also, as North Korea and Venezuela have been added to the list of countries named in the travel ban,, it can no longer be classified as a "Muslim" Travel Ban as North Korea and Venezuela are not Muslim countries.  (yet)


Being Constitutional doesn't make it libertarian.
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #221 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:37am
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Morris wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:12am:
Being Constitutional doesn't make it libertarian.
What is un-libertarian about trying to identify criminals, terrorists, people who want to destroy America and carriers of the Black Death and refusing to let them into America?
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #222 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 12:27pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:37am:
What is un-libertarian about trying to identify criminals, terrorists, people who want to destroy America and carriers of the Black Death and refusing to let them into America?


It was intended right from the start as a ban on Muslims.

That old outdated constitution is a political toy that can be used, and is used for politics to suit the side that has the power to wield it. It's bastardized and irrelevant to the 21st. century.

As for this question, any court is a country that upholds human rights and decency would strike it down because of it being racist. Trump promotes that because he has been proven to be one and his followers love it. (Obama an American?)

If it isn't then it will be any reward Trump has given your country for the rest of the world to see.

I would have thought that 'you' of all the whackjob on this forum would have seen the light on this one at least?
  
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Re: Is Trump's Travel Ban For Muslims Un-Constitutional?
Reply #223 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm
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Don_G wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
That old outdated constitution is a political toy that can be used, and is used for politics to suit the side that has the power to wield it.
It's true that the interpretation of the Constitution that grants general powers out of whole cloth from the commerce and general welfare clauses is an abomination that has created our currently abominable government... But were aren't talking about those usurped powers.

We've been talking a about a specific power granted to Congress and the responsibilities of the Executive.
  
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