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Re: How Many Weeks Until The President's Impeachment?
Reply #20 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 3:46pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 11:37am:
But the WSJ reported

"U.S. intelligence officials have withheld sensitive intelligence from President Donald Trump because they are concerned it could be leaked or compromised, according to current and former officials familiar with the matter."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/spies-keep-intelligence-from-donald-trump-148720935...


These would be many of the same "intelligence officials" that gave sensitive intelligence to Hillary, knowing that she was using an insecure private server? Cheesy
  
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Re: How Many Weeks Until The President's Impeachment?
Reply #21 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 4:40pm
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The President held an impromptu News Conference today.  I caught the last half of it.  Predictably, Trump doubled-down on his "fake" news narrative.  He told a CNN reporter "The leaks are real, the news is fake."

There would have been taped phone conversations between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador. The FBI needs to review those tapes.

If the tapes were not edited or erased, and Flynn did NOT make any promises about lifting sanctions, then no harm - no foul. 

However, if there are gaps in the tapes or the tapes reveal that Flynn made some promises he shouldn't have, then Flynn will face a Congressional debriefing. He might say that Trump had no knowledge of the communiques.  In which case, Trump has nothing to worry about. 

Flynn might testify that Trump DID know about sanction deals made with the Russians.  In this case, the President will most certainly face impeachment, and Pence would become the 46th POTUS.
  
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Re: How Many Weeks Until The President's Impeachment?
Reply #22 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:10am
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 4:40pm:
The President held an impromptu News Conference today.  I caught the last half of it.  Predictably, Trump doubled-down on his "fake" news narrative.  He told a CNN reporter "The leaks are real, the news is fake."

There would have been taped phone conversations between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador. The FBI needs to review those tapes.

If the tapes were not edited or erased, and Flynn did NOT make any promises about lifting sanctions, then no harm - no foul. 

However, if there are gaps in the tapes or the tapes reveal that Flynn made some promises he shouldn't have, then Flynn will face a Congressional debriefing. He might say that Trump had no knowledge of the communiques.  In which case, Trump has nothing to worry about. 

Flynn might testify that Trump DID know about sanction deals made with the Russians.  In this case, the President will most certainly face impeachment, and Pence would become the 46th POTUS.

When did this alleged conversation between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador occur?

Is anybody looking into Obama's "more flexibility" with the Russians "after the (re)election"?

I think there is a lot of interest in Congress about what the IC did and when and why they did it.

Too bad nobody in the IC leaked, early on, that Hillary was using a non-secure private server for secrets...
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:57am
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Jeff wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:10am:
Too bad nobody in the IC leaked, early on, that Hillary was using a non-secure private server for secrets...

I agree. But all that is water under the bridge. Hillary lied to Congress but she was a lawyer so she knew how to lie ambiguously.  Trump knows nothing about law, so his lies are plainly visible for everyone to see.

At the press conference yesterday, Trump got bitch-slapped by some reporter who did some fact-checking on Trump's lies.  Instead of admitting he lied and apologizing, Trump excused himself from any wrongdoing by pointing the finger at someone else who gave him bad info.  Which obviously is a lie. Yes, someone gave him some info, but it was good info.  When Trump regurgitated it, he exaggerated the numbers to benefit himself, thereby rendering the info innacurate and subject to scrutiny.
  
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Re: How Many Weeks Until The President's Impeachment?
Reply #24 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:16pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:57am:
I agree. But all that is water under the bridge. Hillary lied to Congress but she was a lawyer so she knew how to lie ambiguously.  Trump knows nothing about law, so his lies are plainly visible for everyone to see.

Sums up the difference remarkably well.  Trump doesn't know how to maintain plausible deniability and can't ever say, "I was wrong" or "I'm sorry."
  
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Re: How Many Weeks Until The President's Impeachment?
Reply #25 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 4:51pm
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ahhell wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:16pm:
Trump doesn't know how to maintain plausible deniability...

About what, exactly?

What is it you want him to deny?

Specifically.

Please tell us.

Probably he should deny that he and Hillary dealt amicably with each other in the past...
  
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Re: How Many Weeks Until The President's Impeachment?
Reply #26 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm
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Jeff wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
Probably he should deny that he and Hillary dealt amicably with each other in the past...

That would be unwise. There's plenty of evidence that they did.


Trump needs to stop embellishing the facts. He needs to tone down all the hyperbole.

Did you know that Trump is holding a campaign rally in Florida tomorrow?  Apparently, he didn't get the memo. He WON the election.      Undecided
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-to-hold-campaign-style-rally-in-florida/
  
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Re: How Many Weeks Until The President's Impeachment?
Reply #27 - Feb 18th, 2017 at 7:09am
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:57am:
Hillary lied to Congress but she was a lawyer so she knew how to lie ambiguously.  Trump knows nothing about law, so his lies are plainly visible for everyone to see.

I have to think we are better off with a President who's a bad liar than with a President who's a really good professional liar...

Congress is full of lawyers... Do you imagine they didn't pick up on Hillary's "ambiguous" lies?
  
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Reply #28 - Feb 19th, 2017 at 8:16am
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Is this sort of thing how representative government is supposed to work?

http://nypost.com/2017/02/18/obama-linked-activists-have-a-training-manual-for-p...
  
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Re: How Many Weeks Until The President's Impeachment?
Reply #29 - Feb 19th, 2017 at 11:42am
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Today on MSNBC, Political commenator/Snowflake Joy Ann Reid suggested that using the term "fake news" should be a "hate" crime. The thinks that Trump should "pay" for the lost ratings and ad revenue losses suffered by MSNBC (and other news outlets) each time Trump calls them "fake news".

She correctly pointed out that is was actually Trump who put "fake news" on the map with his ridiculous claim that Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Obama) was not born in the US.

One of her guests (Joan Walsh) defended the President saying that although it is wrong of him to spread lies, its a Free Speech issue which cannot be infringed.
  
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