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Reply #50 - May 27th, 2017 at 8:05am
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The Opposition wrote on May 26th, 2017 at 10:50pm:
Because anyone who needs the alcohol is forced to support the gangs!!!

If you had some areas dry and some not, and you want to drink, you go live where there are other drunks and the alcohol is cheap because there's no extra cost associated with risking the wrath of the law.
Here, read this.

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/four-decades-counting-continue...

There are in fact places in the U.S. where you can't buy alcohol, not that that has anything to do with the issue of prohibition.

The real issue is, absent a Constitutional amendment like the 18th, the national government has no authority to prohibit anything. Other than treason and whatever else is explicitly mentioned in the Constitution (counterfeiting?) police powers are not granted to the national government.
  
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Reply #51 - May 27th, 2017 at 11:48am
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AlayneLeung wrote on May 26th, 2017 at 11:04am:
If that amendment to the Constitution, that repealed prohibition amendment to allow alcohol drinking, then how about amending the Constitution to allow for cruel & unusual punishments to be imposed on persons that commit violent crimes because of alcohol drinking or marijuana or cocaine or tobacco smoking including wildfire(s) that kill good person(s) or other dangerous drugs related violence that kill good person(s).   Huh

Yeah, I know, US Libertarian Party opposes death penalty.  Cool

And innocent persons and persons that were poisoned by drugs that coercedly or forcibly were put into them would be put to death by corrupt broken justice system, and drug persons that allowed themselves to commit violence because of drug usage would never be punished. Angry


Are you a neo-Nazi? Would you be the one who decides who is put to death? How about for giving marijuana to another person to try for the first time?

It's sick American extremist pigs who should be jailed for expressing their hate. Banish capital punishment as nearly all other modern nations have done. Let go of your hate!
  
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Reply #52 - May 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm
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Jeff wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 8:05am:
Here, read this.

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/four-decades-counting-continue...

There are in fact places in the U.S. where you can't buy alcohol, not that that has anything to do with the issue of prohibition.

The real issue is, absent a Constitutional amendment like the 18th, the national government has no authority to prohibit anything. Other than treason and whatever else is explicitly mentioned in the Constitution (counterfeiting?) police powers are not granted to the national government.


This shows both sides. Watch it. I have.

  

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Reply #53 - May 27th, 2017 at 2:52pm
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The Opposition wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
This shows both sides. Watch it. I have.


Every argument in support of alcohol prohibition was long ago proved to be wrong. Every purported benefit that was supposed to be realized by alcohol prohibition failed to materialize. There is no rational "side" against letting people decide for themselves what they want to eat and drink and smoke.
  
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Reply #54 - Jun 1st, 2017 at 8:14am
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I think this is topical. It's one bad side effect of drug prohibition.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/30/court-to-grandma-you-shouldnt-lose-your
  
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Reply #55 - Jun 1st, 2017 at 10:10am
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I can't decide if the worst aspects are that the war on drugs empowers and enriches the drug cartels or that it empowers and enriches the police, at the expense of civil liberties.
  
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Reply #56 - Jun 1st, 2017 at 11:40am
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Jeff wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
Every argument in support of alcohol prohibition was long ago proved to be wrong. Every purported benefit that was supposed to be realized by alcohol prohibition failed to materialize. There is no rational "side" against letting people decide for themselves what they want to eat and drink and smoke.


The irrational part is asking the gods to bless your stuff. No need to watch a video that includes sky fairy nonsense.
  
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Re: Drug Legalization
Reply #57 - Jun 7th, 2017 at 12:13pm
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DnSn107 wrote on May 22nd, 2017 at 6:22pm:
I understand legalization of marijuana, heroin, and psychedelic drugs, as they harm no one but the user. However, I don't understand legalization of stimulants like cocaine and methamphetamine. Sure, decriminilization is fine, but total legalization? These drugs make users immediately aggressive and violent, which means they do not solely affect the user.


By that logic, we can ban anything that anyone uses to harm someone else.  You punish the criminal, not the object.

The war on drugs is simple. 

Cons)  It funds crime, funds criminal organizations, causes shoot outs in the street, destabilizes governments from Columbia to Afghanistan, terrorizes our inner cities, teaches our citizens to not respect the law and is used as an endless excuse for the government to eliminate our Constitutional rights.

Pros)  None.  We have the drugs anyway.

The term for eliminating the war on drugs would be "no brainer"
  

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