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Re: SOCIALLY Responsible Capitalism!
Reply #10 - May 29th, 2017 at 5:22pm
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Jeff wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 3:38pm:
It's obvious that economic liberty under an impartial rule of law is far better at providing people with anything and everything when compared with a government designed and bureaucratically interpreted and enforced "market".

Why would you imagine that (medical) insurance and doctoring would be any different? Free the Doctors, free the hospitals and free the insurance companies so that people can shop around and get the best deal.



Sure jeff, you tell us all how to get good affordable health care for all the people. Your country is such a fine example to the world isn't it. That tells us that American has all the answers.

You silly mutt. You shoot your foot off every time you try to answer. Especially when you are so full of anxiety that you find it necessary to serial post 4 times in a row to yourself.

Why not get all you guns out and clean them. That works a lot of time for Americans when they get edgy! There's usuallly one that's left loaded! 
  
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Reply #11 - May 30th, 2017 at 8:26am
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Don_G wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 5:22pm:
Sure jeff, you tell us all how to get good affordable health care for all the people.
The same way we got good and affordable eye care or good and affordable clothing, by allowing economic liberty to free individuals.

I know that you would prefer to have poverty distributed equally (except for the 'Leaders'), but that's hardly something to be proud of.
  
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Reply #12 - May 30th, 2017 at 8:32am
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Xeno capitalism is never socially responsible.
  

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Reply #13 - May 30th, 2017 at 1:31pm
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Jeff wrote on May 30th, 2017 at 8:26am:
The same way we got good and affordable eye care or good and affordable clothing, by allowing economic liberty to free individuals.

I know that you would prefer to have poverty distributed equally (except for the 'Leaders'), but that's hardly something to be proud of.


And so by all means, best of luck getting your form of capitalist system giving you the people, affordable universal health care for all!

You Americans don't seem to have minded the rest of the world laughing at you so far so you won't mind as we continue laughing.

It's just that it's a mystery to me why assholes like you continue to humiliate yourselves over this issue?

Maybe we should just drop it? What do you think? I can continue if you like!


  
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Reply #14 - May 30th, 2017 at 4:50pm
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Don_G wrote on May 30th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
And so by all means, best of luck getting your form of capitalist system giving you the people, affordable universal health care for all!
All this talk about universal shit is making me think I've erred in my arthritis medicine dosage... Undecided

Or maybe it's just that you are insane...

Why not just wish for universal massive amounts of money for all?

If everybody in the universe was stinkin' filthy rich, we could all buy good doctors and pay for good hospitals and all that.

Maybe we could even afford Doctors and hospitals as good as what our rulers have... They all seem to be pretty rich...

Edit: Is that in the Constitution? That only rich lawyers are qualified to serve?

Or am I confused again, and it's that the Constitution requires that public servants must be allowed to become rich in office, because they suffer so much to serve us? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

  
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Reply #15 - May 30th, 2017 at 7:57pm
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Jeff Quote:
If everybody in the universe was stinkin' filthy rich, we could all buy good doctors and pay for good hospitals and all that.

Maybe we could even afford Doctors and hospitals as good as what our rulers have... They all seem to be pretty rich...

Edit: Is that in the Constitution? That only rich lawyers are qualified to serve?

Or am I confused again, and it's that the Constitution requires that public servants must be allowed to become rich in office, because they suffer so much to serve us?


No, you're not confused. You get a little bit more right every time I give you a hint. You, more than any others are bemoaning the obvious fact that your country's system of capitalism is shortchanging the people!

I couldn't ask for a more willing student. And how it must irk you to find yourself in agreement with nearly everything I say!
  
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Reply #16 - May 30th, 2017 at 9:49pm
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Don_G wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 11:56am:
Those two caveats would be givens. Except that I would ask you to define both because I hear you talking in extremes. The definitions are the key to further discussion on the idea of sociallly responsible.


Theft is the involuntary taking of another person's property.

Force is the use of aggression.

For what it's worth I agree with you about America's health care system. It's the worst of all worlds when it comes to socialism-capitalism mix. Pure socialism would be better; we wouldn't get the best care but we would all get care. Pure capitalism would be much better because prices would have to drop.
  

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Reply #17 - May 31st, 2017 at 7:13am
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Don_G wrote on May 30th, 2017 at 7:57pm:
You, more than any others are bemoaning the obvious fact that your country's system of capitalism is shortchanging the people!

I, along with libertarians/classical liberals in general have been bemoaning the loss of economic liberty in America for generations, and also pointing out that mercantile/crony capitalist/State socialist "systems" enrich governments and their cronies at the expense of working people and have been doing so since the Middle ages.
  
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Reply #18 - May 31st, 2017 at 7:22am
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The Opposition wrote on May 30th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
For what it's worth I agree with you about America's health care system. It's the worst of all worlds when it comes to socialism-capitalism mix. Pure socialism would be better; we wouldn't get the best care but we would all get care.
Everybody gets medical help now, it's just that the way it is controlled and delivered makes it incredibly much more expensive than it could be.

A free market for medical insurance and medical care operating under a rule of law to punish theft and fraud and the use of sensible tort law, as well as removing tax laws that distort the market would return our insurance/medical care "system" to what it was before WWII, only with all the benefits of modern medicine.

The term you used "pure capitalism" is a nonsense construction based on a nonsense word made up by Marx. What Marx called "capitalism" was European mercantilism, and there is no form of mercantilism/crony 'capitalism' that is or can be made "pure".
  
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Re: SOCIALLY Responsible Capitalism!
Reply #19 - May 31st, 2017 at 12:58pm
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All Americans probably get at least the bare minimum in health care. More expensive procedures? They can at least depend on being cremated!

And at a much higher price as Jeff tells us!

Yes, we all know how fu-ked up US health care is. But we don't mind hearing it repeated over and over again. It lets us know you suckers are paying attention.
  
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