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London Has Fallen
Jun 4th, 2017 at 12:18am
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Another day in Muslim-occupied Great Britain.



  
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Re: London Has Fallen
Reply #1 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 5:51am
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Occupied since 1694 buddy.  This is just the latest chess move.
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 10:10am
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merkelstan wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 5:51am:
Occupied since 1694 buddy.  This is just the latest chess move.

Over 400 years.  That's a long time for an occupation. All things considered, they've done remarkably well.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 12:34pm
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London Police marksman shot and wounded a civilian bystander.  Not good. 

UK PM Theresa May's four-point plan to defeat terror:

1) Tougher sentences for terror offences
2) Less tolerance of extremism
3) Holding online giants to account
4) Reinforce British values

Those things sound pretty scary (to a 5-year old), but sorry Ms. May, your platitudes are not going to defeat terror.  Those things might make Brits feel better about themselves, but Terrorists don't give a shit about those things.

Less tolerance of extremism? Is she joking?   Is she saying that we should be tolerant of extremism, but not quite as much as before?

Just deport the extremists and be done with it.  Send them home to the cess-pits they came from.
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 2:13pm
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merkelstan wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 5:51am:
Occupied since 1694 buddy.  This is just the latest chess move.

Hmm? That reference is too obscure for me.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 2:21pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 12:34pm:
London Police marksman shot and wounded a civilian bystander.  Not good.

Civilians die in war all the time. What idiot would live in a warzone and then complain about becoming collateral damage?

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UK PM Theresa May's four-point plan to defeat terror:

1) Candlelight vigils
2) #PrayForLondon...Again
3) Elect more Muslim PMs
4) National Burqa Day

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Just deport the extremists and be done with it.  Send them home to the cess-pits they came from.

None of them belong. And they all look the same. Deport them all. They have homelands.
  
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Re: London Has Fallen
Reply #6 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:00pm
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This is part of the point I was trying to make about parasitical versus nonparasitical ideology.

If a gun-toter wants to live among his fellows and take the chance of being shot, he's nonparasitical. But if he wants a gun for himself but insists that no one else should be allowed to have one, his version of gun rights is parasitical.

This can be applied to any ideology no matter how extreme. People who want to live with likes are the nonparasites. People who prefer nonlikes are probably parasites who insist upon a benefit for themselves which is accrued from everyone else's sacrifice - while being unwilling to make that sacrifice themselves.

This is easy to see with any other choice like legal drugs. I don't think anyone would fail to see the bad form if a crackhead wanted legal crack for himself but insisted to live where it was not legal.

For religion, however, we're all expected to move aside. The rules suddenly change. We're expected to accept the greater risk of living alongside extremists while not being extremists ourselves, and dare we not say we don't want to live among Southern Baptists or Muslims. They have a right to impose the greater risk on others and live among those who impose less risk on them, gosh darn it!

It strikes me as odd that everyone can apply this to gun rights; everyone can see that because there are people willing to make the sacrifice of their ability to protect their home for added safety, it's not fair for others to ruin that accrued safety. However, when it's open borders the rules suddenly flip. Rights, rights, rights become paramount, the drive for safety disappears, and pure libertarian individualism stands on high, untouchable, sacred, and inviolable, to be worshiped by all.
  

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Re: London Has Fallen
Reply #7 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 8:23pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:00pm:
If a gun-toter wants to live among his fellows and take the chance of being shot, he's nonparasitical. But if he wants a gun for himself but insists that no one else should be allowed to have one, his version of gun rights is parasitical.

Right. Like Dianne Feinstein. She wants her gun, but she thinks everyone else is too stupid to know what they're used for, so nobody can own guns except her, her crony friends, and agents of the State.

The Opposition wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:00pm:
However, when it's open borders the rules suddenly flip. Rights, rights, rights become paramount, the drive for safety disappears, and pure libertarian individualism stands on high, untouchable, sacred, and inviolable, to be worshiped by all.

Any ideology taken to extremes has undesireable effects or consequences.  Same holds true with Libertarianism. Its possible to be sensible and rational about safety without compromising principles on Natural Rights.

BTW, the London Bridge terrorists didn't use firearms to kill and injure all those people.  They ran some of them over with a rented Van, and hacked and slashed other victims with knives! 

I reckon the Brits should consider knife-control laws. If they had knife-control laws un UK, this would have forced the terrorists to use some other method to kill and injure the soft targets.  Like Bludgeoning or strangulation with piano wire. 
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 5th, 2017 at 9:19pm
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All is going according to plan.
  
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