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Reply #100 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 9:55am
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ahhell wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 9:45am:
At least that's funny.


I like how on a libertarian message board I can't get anyone to discuss consent of the governed, but I can find out that I support slavery.  You won't piss me off again, you're in my not to be taken seriously pile with Jeff
  

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Reply #101 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 10:37am
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kaz wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 9:55am:
I like how on a libertarian message board I can't get anyone to discuss consent of the governed, but I can find out that I support slavery.  You won't piss me off again, you're in my not to be taken seriously pile with Jeff

But we all agreed, consent of the governed is important.
  
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Reply #102 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:02pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:06am:
All those nuke tests and missile tests and promises to nuke America and take over South Korea are just made up propaganda? Cheesy


Yes, and it's quite logical when you apply some thinking on it.
N. Korea is China's proxy which is being used by China in the same way Israel is the US's proxy the US uses.

Kim wouldn't dare attempt to do anything without China's permission. I've been trying to get this message across for weeks now but it's foreign to US thinking to accept the obvious.

Your government is fully aware of what is happening but is playing the charade for obvious reasons. Think it through and it will make perfect sense. The US must pretend that N.Korea is a threat and you will understand why.

In reality, the US, China, and Russia are handling the situation behind the scenes. An attack by either the N.Koreans or the US is obviously out of the question. As would be an attack concerning Israel.

And that's what is called, moving beyond propaganda 101!
  
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Re: Is Consent of the Governed Important?
Reply #103 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:18pm
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Don_G wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
Yes, and it's quite logical when you apply some thinking on it.
N. Korea is China's proxy which is being used by China in the same way Israel is the US's proxy the US uses.
This much is true but in both situation, neither is particularly well controlled by their patrons.   It also does disprove in any way my contention that N. Korea is a communist monarchy.  Which you claimed was false without every offering any evidence or a counter narrative.

I would guarantee, even if the rest of your narrative is true(it largely is except some detail*), China does not want Kim firing of all these ballistic missiles.

*Details like:
Russian is playing no part in this particular show.
China doesn't have nearly as much control over Kim as you think and they've been loosing control of Kim regime for a few years.



  
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Reply #104 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:20pm
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Don_G wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
Yes, and it's quite logical when you apply some thinking on it.
N. Korea is China's proxy which is being used by China in the same way Israel is the US's proxy the US uses


Canada's a better comparison than Israel.  Israel grasps the situation they're in
  

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Reply #105 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:30pm
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kaz wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:20pm:
Canada's a better comparison than Israel.  Israel grasps the situation they're in


So does N.Korea. They're safe behind China's shield of MAD. I see that you have read and now you understand! Whether you admit it or just try to dodge it isn't important now. Your understanding will be reflected in your future posts, after you have forgotten your need to be contrary. LOL
  
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Reply #106 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:35pm
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Don_G wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
after you have forgotten your need to be contrary. LOL


Grin

As I pointed out before, bam!  Repeating back to me what I said to you again, proving again you've got nothing!
  

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Reply #107 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 1:10pm
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ahhell wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 9:45am:
As I've noted, I know a few folks who think the Soviets were right wing.   When I tried to figure out why, its basically because they define the right as "things I don't like" or "meanies" or something of the sort.


That is interesting, thanks.
  
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Reply #108 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 1:16pm
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merkelstan wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 1:10pm:
That is interesting, thanks.


It's worth honourable mention because it dead on the truth. Nobody can be seen as being closely related to either the commies or the Nazis. At leas nobody except me on this board because I don't mind in the least being next to the commies on the political spectrum. But not communist of course. Capitalist pure and simple but with a difference I'm trying to cause Americans to understand.
  
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Re: Is Consent of the Governed Important?
Reply #109 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 3:11pm
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Don_G wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 1:16pm:
It's worth honourable mention because it dead on the truth. Nobody can be seen as being closely related to either the commies or the Nazis. At leas nobody except me on this board because I don't mind in the least being next to the commies on the political spectrum. But not communist of course. Capitalist pure and simple but with a difference I'm trying to cause Americans to understand.


left = central economic planning by force = socialism

The Soviets and Nazis were both pure socialists, take your hand out of your pants
  

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