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Re: Anarchists are only a theoretical model
Reply #40 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:32pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:24pm:
Are you saying you want me gone from this forum?
Your claim is that you have no right to be here, because there is no such thing as a right.

But, no, I love having you here.

Stick around and entertain me. Thanks.
  
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Reply #41 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:38pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:32pm:
Your claim is that you have no right to be here,


Yup.

Jeff wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:32pm:
because there is no such thing as a right.


No, that is not my claim. You have rights. I do not. If you suddenly discover a right to make anyone you don't like get lost from this forum, you might just have to word it so it's not positive, but you have that right.

This is how rights work. One person, or many people, decide they have this or that right and then unilaterally impose restrictions on the behaviour of others. Classical liberals have discovered the rights to be free of violence and of free speech, so others may never commit violence against them nor stop them from speaking freely. Modern liberals have discovered the right not to be offended, so no one may subject them to anything they consider offensive.
  

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Reply #42 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:43pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
You have rights. I do not.
Good. That makes me feel secure... Unless you possess some power over me? Theoretical or actual? That scares the crap out of me and motivates me to check my defenses against barbarians.
  
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Reply #43 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:46pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:43pm:
Good. That makes me feel secure.


Good. You've admitted that rights are a unilateral imposition on behaviour from one side to another. This is all I've been saying about them all along.

Jeff wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:43pm:
Unless you possess some power over me?


Nope. The only power I have is Reason and you're quite immune.
  

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Reply #44 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:04pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:46pm:
Good. You've admitted that rights are a unilateral imposition on behaviour from one side to another.
Nope. Once again I disagree with your statement.

Completely.

The protection of Rights frees people to live their own lives as they see fit and to the best of their ability.

Which part of that don't you like?

Your Mom struggling to kill you with a butter knife in order to protect herself from you? Grin Grin Grin
  
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Reply #45 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:36pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:04pm:
The protection of Rights frees people to live their own lives as they see fit and to the best of their ability.


Sure, for people who have them.
  

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Reply #46 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:40pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Sure, for people who have them.
Yes. Americans.

I'm fine with talking about abridgements and denials. Which one annoys you the most?
  
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Reply #47 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:45pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
Yes. Americans.

I'm fine with talking about abridgements and denials. Which one annoys you the most?


The fact that you libertarians preach equality but you have so many rights no one could possibly imagine that your 16-tonne pile of them can possibly exist without some people not having that. There's just not enough room. You know this, because you easily admit that I have no rights.

And fine. It annoys me. I accept it, but hypocrisy annoys me. It's okay though; that's just how humans get ahead.
  

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Reply #48 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:50pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
The fact that you libertarians preach equality but you have so many rights no one could possibly imagine that your 16-tonne pile of them can possibly exist without some people not having that. There's just not enough room. You know this, because you easily admit that I have no rights.

And fine. It annoys me. I accept it, but hypocrisy annoys me. It's okay though; that's just how humans get ahead.
Donat_G is better at this... That's probably why he's being paid third world "social justice" wages for being here and you are here for free... Grin Grin Grin

BTW, crappity smack off again, you are the one who claims you have no rights.

I agree with you because I know you are just as evil as you claim to be. At least. Probably worse.

Hey, cut me a break! I'm old. Don't force me to constantly think about evil. Thanks.
  
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Re: Anarchists are only a theoretical model
Reply #49 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:49pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
Donat_G is better at this... That's probably why he's being paid third world "social justice" wages for being here and you are here for free... Grin Grin Grin

BTW, crappity smack off again, you are the one who claims you have no rights.

I agree with you because I know you are just as evil as you claim to be. At least. Probably worse.


So evil people shouldn't have rights. Gotcha.

I don't believe I have rights because I don't have any evidence of it. I have plenty of evidence that you have rights because you constantly tell me you do, and others constantly tell me you do. And you constantly tell me others do.

So keep doing it. It just supports my conclusion that rights exist merely to provide advantage to those who have the most of them.

I will never demand rights because I know rights are a unilateral imposition on another person's behaviour. Freetards can see this when modern liberals discover the right not to be offended. They just can't see it when the rights are on the other foot and benefit their freedom of speech.
  

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