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Reply #20 - Jun 20th, 2017 at 12:13pm
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I like your idea of me voting myself money. It's quite true in a sense but it needs to be explained.


Voting yourself money needs to be explained?  How can it be put more obviously than it already is?

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I vote for the Liberal government and that party ensures there is at least some equity in wealth in our country. There are limits to how much disparity in incomes is allowed to exist. Taxation is the mechanism with which it can be maintained.

The Canadian people are relatively happy and Canada has benefited by good government. We don't ever want to be anything like the US where the people are so unhappy with their system that they are actually contemplating revolution.

Or at least, digging up their guns out of their potato patches and getting even with Obama!


You have no grasp of the world around you.  Canadians survive because you're tiny, have lots of energy exports and are cared for by the United States.  So you get away with being socialists.

The United States got everything we have on our own.  As the only super power, politicians want to control us more than anyone.  Unfortunately, the American people can't see the politicians for what they are.  Well, they can see the other side for what they are, they just can't see that their own are the same
  

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Reply #21 - Jun 20th, 2017 at 12:30pm
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kaz wrote on Jun 20th, 2017 at 12:13pm:
Voting yourself money needs to be explained?  How can it be put more obviously than it already is?


You have no grasp of the world around you.  Canadians survive because you're tiny, have lots of energy exports and are cared for by the United States.  So you get away with being socialists.

The United States got everything we have on our own.  As the only super power, politicians want to control us more than anyone.  Unfortunately, the American people can't see the politicians for what they are.  Well, they can see the other side for what they are, they just can't see that their own are the same


I agree. It's not so much as other people not being able to see Americans for what they really are, it's Americans being able to see what their country really has become.

I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do about it but try to tell you how to change. I hope that doesn't make you angry because you should know that I feel love for you Americans. Call it tough love. China and Russia feel the same way!

Have a lovely day!
  
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Re: Libertarianism Supporting Social Reform
Reply #22 - Jun 20th, 2017 at 1:41pm
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I agree. It's not so much as other people not being able to see Americans for what they really are, it's Americans being able to see what their country really has become.

I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do about it but try to tell you how to change. I hope that doesn't make you angry because you should know that I feel love for you Americans. Call it tough love. China and Russia feel the same way!

Have a lovely day!


I always thought it would be a race baiting Marxist from an inconsequential country that would lead us out of the darkness.
Wow, I nailed that ...
  

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Reply #23 - Jun 20th, 2017 at 1:46pm
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kaz wrote on Jun 20th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
I always thought it would be a race baiting Marxist from an inconsequential country that would lead us out of the darkness.
Wow, I nailed that ...


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It's not so much as other people not being able to see Americans for what they really are, it's Americans being able to see what their country really has become.


You need not attribute your awakening to anybody other than the American people. And I've repeatedly told you that too.
  
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Reply #24 - Jun 20th, 2017 at 7:53pm
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Social reform will be referred to by a rightist libertarian as 'the welfare state' but this is not the case.

http://thoughtsonliberty.com/what-is-left-libertarianism

Many rational thinking libertarians do indeed beleive in social reform which includes good government. And in fact it's the only style of libertarianism that can work in actual practice.

It's now time to start to discuss left-libertarianism. If maintaine on that rational level it could play a part in the great change that has to come to US politics.


Libertarian social reform is ending the interventionist State.

That is all.
  
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Reply #25 - Jun 21st, 2017 at 7:52am
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merkelstan wrote on Jun 20th, 2017 at 7:53pm:
Libertarian social reform is ending the interventionist State.

That is all.
That sums it up nicely... I assume you include interventions in America too? An end to "nation building" here as well as elsewhere?
  
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? "jail" and "prison" be acronyms that stand for:
Reply #26 - Mar 9th, 2019 at 1:29pm
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What should "jail" be an acronym that stands for:

justly
assistedly
incarcerated
limitedly

? and what should "prison" be an acronym that stands for:

punished/positively
rehabilitatively
incarcerated
subordinates
oppressing
nefariousnesses

? What do you each think?
  
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Re: Libertarianism Supporting Social Reform
Reply #27 - Mar 9th, 2019 at 1:59pm
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Minimizing government and maximizing individual liberty allows societies to reform themselves in any way that happens when free people interact with each other.

The very idea of "social reform" is "progressive" not libertarian.
  
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Re: ? "jail" and "prison" be acronyms that stand for:
Reply #28 - Mar 9th, 2019 at 7:45pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 1:29pm:
What should "jail" be an acronym that stands for:

justly
assistedly
incarcerated
limitedly

? and what should "prison" be an acronym that stands for:

punished/positively
rehabilitatively
incarcerated
subordinates
oppressing
nefariousnesses

? What do you each think?


I think they're lovely. Now let me give it a try.

Justice
Always
Inhibits
Liberty

Problematic
Rights
Instill
Slews
Of
Noncompliance
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: ? "jail" and "prison" be acronyms that stand for:
Reply #29 - Mar 10th, 2019 at 6:58am
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The Opposition wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 7:45pm:
I think they're lovely. Now let me give it a try.

Justice
Always
Inhibits
Liberty

Problematic
Rights
Instill
Slews
Of
Noncompliance
Justice inhibits liberty? The liberty to do what, steal and rape and murder?
  
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