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Reply #10 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 5:16pm
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Don_G wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 3:01pm:
Not right now, I'm in Liberland talking to the green people.



I must say though, that the people we see in Liberland are pretty clever in camoflaging themselves to look like trees!

Whaaatttttttaaaaaaaaaa!
You expect to be taken seriously by anyone?
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 6:12pm
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Don_G wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 3:01pm:
I must say though, that the people we see in Liberland are pretty clever in camoflaging themselves to look like trees!

Those aren't camoflaged people. They are trees. Liberland is still an undeveloped plot of land between Serbia and Croatia.  There is no infrastructure as of yet.  But the Liberland government structure is well established.

The Cabinet has been chosen and the Constitution has been written.  Not surprisingly, it closely resembles the US Constitution in content and form.  I like Liberland's Constitution because it prohibits Taxes. there were other things that were appealing, but its been a long since I read it so I forgot what they were.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 6:46pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 6:12pm:
Those aren't camoflaged people. They are trees. Liberland is still an undeveloped plot of land between Serbia and Croatia.  There is no infrastructure as of yet.  But the Liberland government structure is well established.

The Cabinet has been chosen and the Constitution has been written.  Not surprisingly, it closely resembles the US Constitution in content and form.  I like Liberland's Constitution because it prohibits Taxes. there were other things that were appealing, but its been a long since I read it so I forgot what they were.


Who is getting taxed in Liberland, the trees?
It's obvious that Liberland is in your head.

I'll include the Libers now when I list all the sky fairies. LOL
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 8:06pm
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Don_G wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 6:46pm:
Who is getting taxed in Liberland, the trees?

The organized government of Liberland is most likely surviving on the contributions of credulous people who are imagining it will eventually become a real country.
  
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Jeff wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 8:06pm:
The organized government of Liberland is most likely surviving on the contributions of credulous people who are imagining it will eventually become a real country.


You must mean the contributions of water and nitrogen fertilizer. Those are their only two needs and with them they can go on to rise to new heights, perhaps never witnessed before!
  
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Reply #15 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 11:04pm
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Don_G wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 6:46pm:
Who is getting taxed in Liberland, the trees?


No, dummy. I already told you THERE ARE NO TAXES. This includes the trees.

Why pretend to be this dense?
  
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Reply #16 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 11:33pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 11:04pm:
No, dummy. I already told you THERE ARE NO TAXES. This includes the trees.

Why pretend to be this dense?


You don't tax trees by making them pay money you fool. You tax them by denying them fertilizer and water.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/21/8457239/liberland-the-worlds-newest-country-v...


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Liberland pretty clearly doesn't pass the basic sovereignty test. It can't stop the Croatian Border Patrol (or any other paramilitary force) from doing whatever they want on its territory. So if it is a country, it's a failed state that's being occupied by a foreign nation.


It's a failed state even before it had more than just trees. This is highly unfair to perfectly socially responsible trees.

Oh wait, did that tree move? why yes, it did! No wait, it's just the Chief in his green tree costume! It would have worked but his guns flashed in the sun.
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 2:38am
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This very topic has been beaten to death on this forum, yet Don_G has to create his dozen threads a day, and can't be bothered to READ any response in detail, nor to read any serious libertarian sources.

I smell a troll.


The question of taxes (if any) devolves into the question of what is the legitimate role of government (if any).   Troll_G should be familiar with Hobbes,Locke,and perhaps Kant if he is a "real libertarian", and that would frame the issue (not resolve it).
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 6:49pm
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stevea wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 2:38am:
This very topic has been beaten to death on this forum, yet Don_G has to create his dozen threads a day, and can't be bothered to READ any response in detail, nor to read any serious libertarian sources.

I smell a troll.


The question of taxes (if any) devolves into the question of what is the legitimate role of government (if any).   Troll_G should be familiar with Hobbes,Locke,and perhaps Kant if he is a "real libertarian", and that would frame the issue (not resolve it).
That frames the issue well steve, but I'm afraid the Donat can't see it.
He's mired in Marx's imaginary metaphysics and trying to apply it to imaginary humans.
  
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Re: What, if any, Taxes are Acceptable in a Libertarian System?
Reply #19 - Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:53pm
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stevea wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 2:38am:
This very topic has been beaten to death on this forum, yet Don_G has to create his dozen threads a day, and can't be bothered to READ any response in detail, nor to read any serious libertarian sources.

I smell a troll.


The question of taxes (if any) devolves into the question of what is the legitimate role of government (if any).   Troll_G should be familiar with Hobbes,Locke,and perhaps Kant if he is a "real libertarian", and that would frame the issue (not resolve it).


People like you always resort to the 'troll' charge in order to have differing opinions censored. All of the extremists who pretend to be libertarians have given it a try already. The Chief, Jeff, Kaz before he got frustrated, and especially you. When it repeatedly doesn't work for you, you should move on and try to deal with me in a more effective way. Now wipe the foam off your face and try!

But I like to take a topic seriously and so with this one I'll challenge the pseudo-libertarians' notion of their limited view of the role of government. Shall we get started steve?
  
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