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Reply #10 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 5:38am
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It wasn’t typical for NFL players to stand for the national anthem until 2009—before then, it was customary for players to stay in the locker room as the anthem played.* A 2015 congressional report revealed that the Department of Defense had paid $5.4 million to NFL teams between 2011 and 2014 to stage on-field patriotic ceremonies; the National Guard shelled out $6.7 million for similar displays between 2013 and 2015.

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2016/09/colin_kaepernick_s_prote...
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 6:17am
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 1:12pm:
Refusing to stand for the National Anthem sends a powerful message. Many people see it as disrespecting the National Anthem and America.  It's really not.

It's a racial solidarity statement.

I think tribal ideas like "racial solidarity" are a bad idea, and what it looks like to me is their tribe has been convinced that America is evil.

It does look like lots of people who think America is good (even though we have increasingly bad government) are tuning out... Team owners and sponsors can make of it what they will and do whatever they think is appropriate.

Edit: If Americans divide up into "racial" tribes, America will be racist.
The fact that our governments have been dividing us up into "racial" tribes since the '60s seems to me to be a prime cause of "racism".
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 6:22am
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Don_G wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
It's a very interesting question on rights. I think the question would be answered forthwith if the team fired Kaepernik!


I thought he was currently out of work?

I'm still interested in why you say Trump "needs to be seen as an insider" with professional athletes.
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 6:32am
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Morris wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 5:38am:
Is "America" racist as these protestors claim? Is supporting them (beyond their right to protest) agreeing that "America" is racist?
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:31pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 6:22am:
I thought he was currently out of work?

I'm still interested in why you say Trump "needs to be seen as an insider" with professional athletes.


Only that Trump wants to keep the image that he's one of the boys. It sells very well to Americans who think that if he likes football, he's got to be good.
Also, he's vain and needs to be one of the boys.
  
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Reply #15 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:34pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 6:32am:
Is "America" racist as these protestors claim? Is supporting them (beyond their right to protest) agreeing that "America" is racist?


The US 'is' racist Jeff. Compared to the rest of the modern world which isn't nearly as much. It's the lasting effects of your civil war which the south never got over losing.

We hear about it every day. Your country is geographically divided because of the politics of the south vs. north.
  
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Reply #16 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 4:28pm
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Don_G wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:34pm:
The US 'is' racist Jeff.

All the "evidence" you have of that is that police have to shoot a lot of barbarians in regressive inner cities. Cops are nervous even before they enter gang territory...

Why is anyone surprised when regressive inner city barbarians get shot? Lots of them shot each other in Chicago during Prohibition too... And the Cops killed some too.
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 4:30pm
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Don_G wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:34pm:
Your country is geographically divided because of the politics of the south vs. north.
Right. Who makes the best barbecue or has the best recipe for sausage... Stuff like that?
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:00pm
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Wages of Sin. 

I wonder who controlled the slave trade to the New World?
  
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