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Re: Is Food a Right?
Reply #60 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:41pm
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I mean, for pets, not for old age pensioners who have nothing and so are forced to eat Purina cat chow in your country.
Since beans or rice are much cheaper than Purina cat chow, anyone choosing Purina is doing it for the taste, not out of poverty. 

You know, Don, America is really not that far away.  Feel free to come and see the real thing instead of buying into your own fantasies.

  
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Re: Is Food a Right?
Reply #61 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 4:38pm
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burnsred wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:41pm:
Since beans or rice are much cheaper than Purina cat chow, anyone choosing Purina is doing it for the taste, not out of poverty. 

You know, Don, America is really not that far away.  Feel free to come and see the real thing instead of buying into your own fantasies.



Don't begrudge those old people a little bit of meat protein.

I've been to the US many times but unfortunately not since 911 so I guess I haven't seen anything yet!

Fortunately one doesn't need to go there. Even the people on this forum are telling the sad story well enough to get the drift.

You should have been on this forum when they were all still complaining about how bad it was. Then they suddenly realized that a foreigner was reading it and they abruptly stopped complaining and started to build a paradise for themselves.

The trouble is burnsred, they're libertarians for a reason and that's 90% about not wanting to pay their taxes and 10% about being conditionally antiwar.  The 10% is subject to change at any time it seems right to support the troops, support the troops.
  
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Re: Is Food a Right?
Reply #62 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 4:58pm
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burnsred wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:41pm:
Since beans or rice are much cheaper than Purina cat chow, anyone choosing Purina is doing it for the taste, not out of poverty. 

You know, Don, America is really not that far away.  Feel free to come and see the real thing instead of buying into your own fantasies.



This is what I'm talking about burnsred. You owe yourself a quick look because somebody is selling you a bill of optistic goods.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/01/05/america_s_poor_vs_the_rest_of_the...
  
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Reply #63 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:34pm
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Don_G wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
Don't begrudge those old people a little bit of meat protein.


That's what I'm talking about! When will I get my Sushi?
  
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Re: Is Food a Right?
Reply #64 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:36pm
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Don_G wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 4:58pm:
You owe yourself a quick look because somebody is selling you a bill of optistic goods.
I see where you are going wrong again... If someone bills you for optistic goods, it's the goods you should look at before paying, not yourself.
  
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Reply #65 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 6:30pm
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Dammit Donat! I have a nice Chardonnay begging for that Sushi I'm entitled to as my Right! It better come soon...
  
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Re: Is Food a Right?
Reply #66 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 6:40pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 6:30pm:
Dammit Donat! I have a nice Chardonnay begging for that Sushi I'm entitled to as my Right! It better come soon...


The proof in statistics usually does cause you to post messages to yourself.
If you haven't looked then don't. It's just going to make you more angry.

All those socialist countries leading the world in lower poverty statistics than the US. What on earth could that be all about?

It must be a commie plot to make your country look bad. That's all I can figure Jeff. We've been told so many times that the US is far better and more prosperous.

Why Jeff, if it's true then that's why all you  posters on this forum were complaining so much about getting a bad deal by the 1 or 2%!
  
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Re: Is Food a Right?
Reply #67 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 6:45pm
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Don_G wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 6:40pm:
The proof in statistics usually does cause you to post messages to yourself.
If you haven't looked then don't. It's just going to make you more angry.

All those socialist countries leading the world in lower poverty statistics than the US. What on earth could that be all about?


Lies.

North Koreans are dwarfed by socialism. It's an irrefutable fact.
  
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Re: Is Food a Right?
Reply #68 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 7:01pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 6:45pm:
Lies.

North Koreans are dwarfed by socialism. It's an irrefutable fact.


Socialism is never dwarfed by communism. It's the other way around. Do you think that greedy American capitalism is dwarfed by Nazism too?
  
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Re: Is Food a Right?
Reply #69 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:46pm
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burnsred wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
It is certainly more vital to existence as a human being than medical care.  Nearly every American supports some form of government payments for health care at least as a last resort for people who don't have the money to buy insurance or pay cash for treatments. 

So wouldn't food be even more so?  Suppose a person states openly that they are perfectly capable of working but that they won't work and no one can make them.  Should the government provide them minimum food to survive, such as oatmeal, beans and rice?

Can a libertarian go along with that for humanitarian reasons even though it requires initiation of force against people who do work in order to take their wealth to buy the beans, oatmeal and rice?


Yes, food is a right.  You can get a job and you have the right to buy food with the money. Or you can buy medical care with it.  Or both ...
  

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