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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #30 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm
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Libertarians support secession.
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #31 - Oct 7th, 2017 at 5:45pm
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merkelstan wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Libertarians support secession.
I wish Kalifornia would leave, soon.
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #32 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 9:46am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 7th, 2017 at 5:45pm:
I wish Kalifornia would leave, soon.

Be careful what you wish for.  If it ever happens, expect your grocery bill to nearly double.  And you'll need to build another 1400 miles of wall cuz I guarantee ours is coming down!

Also, our gasoline will be more expensive because it won't be diluted with ethanol.  Our motor vehicles will run better and get better mileage.  Nevadans and Oregonians will drive hundreds of miles for a splash of our pristine fuels.
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #33 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 9:46am:
Be careful what you wish for.  If it ever happens...

My wishes have rarely ever been granted, and I learned long ago to stop wishing... except that I can't help wishing Kalifornia would leave before I have to bail them out.
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #34 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 11:07am
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Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy stated that [Spain] will not recognize an independent Catalonia, and that independence would result in automatic expulsion from the European Union.  The French have said that as well.

The official declaration of independence is expected tomorrow, Oct. 10th.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/europe/catalonia-spain-independence-politics/index...
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #35 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 1:27pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 11:07am:
Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy stated that [Spain] will not recognize an independent Catalonia, and that independence would result in automatic expulsion from the European Union.  The French have said that as well.

The official declaration of independence is expected tomorrow, Oct. 10th.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/europe/catalonia-spain-independence-politics/index...


He's honouring the voice of the huge majority of course. It's only rational and fair to side with Spain.

Have you taken the time to find out what's really going on? What's the motivation behind this? I'm completley guilty of not knowing what it is but I don't think that's of any importance. It's not difficult to know where the majority lies.
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #36 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 4:17pm
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Don_G wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
Have you taken the time to find out what's really going on?

Not really. Like most people, I rely on sound-bytes from the fake news outlets, so I try to pick out the actual facts from the all the spin - there's a lot of guesswork involved.


Don_G wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
What's the motivation behind this?

Catalonia wants their independence, probably. They have their own language, laws and culture.

I hope they get their due Independence & Liberty.
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #37 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 4:25pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 4:17pm:
Not really. Like most people, I rely on sound-bytes from the fake news outlets, so I try to pick out the actual facts from the all the spin - there's a lot of guesswork involved.


Catalonia wants their independence, probably. They have their own language, laws and culture.

I hope they get their due Independence & Liberty.


Yeah, I was pretty sure it would be nothing but a kneejerk reaction with you because it might seem to be the libertarian position. Not an ounce of evidence to show it's due them or even the reason why they are trying.

I hope you are learning from all these mistakes you are making. Not in being wrong but on having nothing to base it on.
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #38 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:16pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 11:07am:
Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy stated that [Spain] will not recognize an independent Catalonia, and that independence would result in automatic expulsion from the European Union.
That makes secession even more attractive to someone trying to get away from Spain's government... They automatically get away from the EU government too!
  
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Re: Libertarian Take on the Catalonia Vote?
Reply #39 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm
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Don_G wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
He's honouring the voice of the huge majority of course. It's only rational and fair to side with Spain.


You like Spain's government?

I already knew you liked to use "democracy" and unsupported claims of "the will of the People" to institute tyranny, so it really isn't a surprise.
  
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