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Re: The Shooter Fired From one Gun-Free Zone into Another
Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:03pm
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burnsred wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 6:55pm:
All the more reason that the law-abiding should be better armed, not disarmed.
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I'm familiar with the argument; arm the teachers in the schools and the students too over the 7th. grade. It might work if it was tried but I don't think Americans are really looking for a solution to a problem they see as a non-problem. Am I wrong?

Is it a problem as you suggest? If you're suggesting that more people need to be armed then you must recognize it as some kind of problem that could be remedied.
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:21pm
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Don_G wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:03pm:
Am I wrong?


Yes. You fail to understand that people deprived of their Right to self defense have (historically) frequently been slaughtered by their own governments.
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:28pm
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I'm familiar with the argument; arm the teachers in the schools and the students too over the 7th. grade.
I've never heard of anyone making that argument.  Can you link me to it?

I've heard of people who would like teachers to be allowed to carry guns, in schools in which they are being raped, assaulted and murdered by the products of the welfare state.  The counter-argument is that a gun never makes anyone safer and  having a gun around children is the idea of a madman.  Tell me, this:  Do you also oppose allowing armed police officers in schools and armed security details for the children of the Clintons and the Obamas?
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Is it a problem as you suggest? If you're suggesting that more people need to be armed then you must recognize it as some kind of problem that could be remedied.
Not sure what you're babbling about here, but that's ok . . .
  
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Re: The Shooter Fired From one Gun-Free Zone into Another
Reply #13 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:56pm
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burnsred wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:28pm:
I've never heard of anyone making that argument.  Can you link me to it?['quote]

Not right now.

[quote]I've heard of people who would like teachers to be allowed to carry guns, in schools in which they are being raped, assaulted and murdered by the products of the welfare state.


No doubt you have a huge problem with a welfare state. There's nothing that can be done about it in your country because you wouldn't allow it.

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  The counter-argument is that a gun never makes anyone safer and  having a gun around children is the idea of a madman.  Tell me, this:  Do you also oppose allowing armed police officers in schools and armed security details for the children of the Clintons and the Obamas?


I don't think there's any reason for police officers to carry their guns to a school. It's projecting an image of violence and could rub off on the kids.
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Not sure what you're babbling about here, but that's ok . . .


It's probably not important for the Clintons or the Obamas but I certainly would say that Trump shouldn't have armed guards!

Anything you're not sure of is fine and it saves me having to think up an answer.
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 8:21pm
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I don't think there's any reason for police officers to carry their guns to a school. It's projecting an image of violence and could rub off on the kids.
Ok, so it's not about psychopaths or criminals or terrorists or anything else. 

You're view is no one should have a gun, period.
  
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Reply #15 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 8:25pm
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burnsred wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 6:55pm:
All the more reason that the law-abiding should be better armed, not disarmed.
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American children too. All children old enough to pull a trigger. Special little guns can be made for children with hair triggers and muzzles that look like soothers.

Lots of new entries for the Darwin awards!

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Reply #16 - Oct 4th, 2017 at 9:20am
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Don_G wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 8:25pm:
American children too. All children old enough to pull a trigger.
Children should be taught about guns, starting with "stay away from them until you are older" right up through how to use them well and safely.
  
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Reply #17 - Oct 4th, 2017 at 2:15pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 4th, 2017 at 9:20am:
Children should be taught about guns, starting with "stay away from them until you are older" right up through how to use them well and safely.


A minority opinion Jeff. The majority feel that children should be introduced to guns at an early age, and be taught how to use them too.
  
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Re: The Shooter Fired From one Gun-Free Zone into Another
Reply #18 - Oct 4th, 2017 at 4:58pm
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Don_G wrote on Oct 4th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
A minority opinion Jeff. The majority feel that children should be introduced to guns at an early age, and be taught how to use them too.
What do you mean by "early age"? Old enough is the standard that parents have always applied. Most often, the parents are right.

Are you speaking for Canadians living in back country or people in Toronto when you say "the majority feel..."?
  
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Re: The Shooter Fired From one Gun-Free Zone into Another
Reply #19 - Oct 5th, 2017 at 7:44pm
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burnsred wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 6:55pm:
All the more reason that the law-abiding should be better armed, not disarmed.
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A good idea if you understand that the more lead in the air, the more dead people.

The Giffords incident proved that a gungoon with a gun on the scene was no help at all.
  
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