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Re: Proof Positive the Right to Free Speech is "Endowed by Our Creator"
Reply #180 - Nov 7th, 2017 at 1:57pm
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Billie wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
I'm seriously asking you to substantiate your claim that government has granted powers to employers by naming some of the granted powers.


I know you're serious. You're always serious at this stage of a conversation. But then you lose it, not just with me but with burnsred too. Be serious with Oppo and/or therm for a while and see if you learn anything.
  
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Reply #181 - Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:00pm
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Don_G wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
I know you're serious. You're always serious at this stage of a conversation.
The same stage of the conversation where you always become evasive... But I was serious from the beginning and still am.
  
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Reply #182 - Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:00pm
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Billie wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
The same stage of the conversation where you always become evasive... But I was serious from the beginning and still am.


To begin with, there's no creator.
  
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Reply #183 - Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:02pm
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Don_G wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
To begin with, there's no creator.
Another typical evasion Donat dear.
  
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Reply #184 - Nov 7th, 2017 at 4:28pm
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Billie wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:02pm:
Another typical evasion Donat dear.


nothing to evade, there's no creator.
  
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Reply #185 - Nov 7th, 2017 at 4:32pm
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Don_G wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 4:28pm:
nothing to evade, there's no creator.
You are evading the responsibility to substantiate your claim that government has granted powers to employers. It's probably your ideology that prevents you from being honest.
  
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Reply #186 - Dec 26th, 2017 at 11:34pm
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A regressive's rationalization for government regulation of Free Speech:  (not for the faint of heart)


"Is the First Amendment too broad?

A John Hopkins study published in 2013 concluded that being exposed to racism can lead to high blood pressure and stress among African Americans.

Free speech advocates also overstate the benefits of free speech.

The First Amendment was in part intended to prevent government reprisal against critics. But why can’t the legal system prevent one citizen from attacking another verbally?

If the U.S. became more willing to restrict hate speech, what would be the result? Would we head down a path towards totalitarianism?    Of course not!"

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/first-amendment-too-broad-case-regulating-...

The government deciding which speech is to be allowed, and which speech is to be suppressed. What a splendid idea! 

What could possibly go wrong?   Grin   Cheesy     Cheesy     Cheesy
  
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Re: Proof Positive the Right to Free Speech is "Endowed by Our Creator"
Reply #187 - Dec 26th, 2017 at 11:55pm
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 26th, 2017 at 11:34pm:
A regressive's rationalization for government regulation of Free Speech:  (not for the faint of heart)


"Is the First Amendment too broad?

A John Hopkins study published in 2013 concluded that being exposed to racism can lead to high blood pressure and stress among African Americans.

Free speech advocates also overstate the benefits of free speech.

The First Amendment was in part intended to prevent government reprisal against critics. But why can’t the legal system prevent one citizen from attacking another verbally?

If the U.S. became more willing to restrict hate speech, what would be the result? Would we head down a path towards totalitarianism?    Of course not!"

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/first-amendment-too-broad-case-regulating-...

The government deciding which speech is to be allowed, and which speech is to be suppressed. What a splendid idea! 

What could possibly go wrong?   Grin   Cheesy     Cheesy     Cheesy


It's already gone wrong.

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Other countries are willing to take the health and safety of their most vulnerable citizens into account. Were the U.S. to properly recognize the danger of hate speech, we wouldn't look like Orwell's "1984." Instead, Delgado told me, we'd "look like France, Germany, The Netherlands, Canada or Sweden, all of whom regulate hate speech but where the political climate is just as free and healthy as our own, if not more so."


Why is it you always end up on the side of Neo-Nazis?
  
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Re: Proof Positive the Right to Free Speech is "Endowed by Our Creator"
Reply #188 - Dec 27th, 2017 at 8:03am
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Don_G wrote on Dec 26th, 2017 at 11:55pm:
Why is it you always end up on the side of Neo-Nazis?
The Chief hates Neo-Nazis and so do I. They say hateful things.

All Neo-Nazis should be sent to Norway, but people in America should still be free to speak their minds... Smiley

Don't you find talk of freedom of speech to be hateful Donat? People are free to talk about the evil results of "socially responsible systems" like that of Venezuela and North Korea... And you'd like to stop that sort of "hate speech" wouldn't you?
  
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Re: Proof Positive the Right to Free Speech is "Endowed by Our Creator"
Reply #189 - Dec 27th, 2017 at 9:16am
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The rulers rarely care about truth or faleshood, but simply about supressing speech that endangers their power.

America has some of the best protection of free speech in the world, but shortly after signing the Constitution, the Sedition act was passed in 1798.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/sedition-act-becomes-federal-law
  
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