Libertarian's Forum
Libertarian Forum to discuss politics and free market economics.
Libertarian's ForumLibertarian's ForumFreedom Forum › "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 6 Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term (Read 499 times)
Don_G
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 5069
Location: British Columbia
Joined: May 8th, 2017
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #10 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:53pm
Print Post  
SkyChief wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
Gun crime victims accepted what?  That the government's job is to make them happy? This makes no sense to me.


Sorry, I meant 'excepted'.

Quote:
HUH?   I don't think that private companies do everything that is done by government. Never did. Never will.  What crazy ideas are you trying to foist on us?


Never said they did. The real libertarian goes all the way and says that government isn't necessary because private enterprise can do everything. Most do 'except' the military.

You're not a libertarian and so you don't understand these things. I'm just making sure you learn enough to  become one. You're a pseudo-libertarian and that's a dead end street.

Keep the comments coming, you'r a useful idiot. (or if you want a break then be nice)


  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
SkyChief
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Online

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 4488
Joined: Aug 18th, 2014
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #11 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:08pm
Print Post  
Don_G wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Keep the comments coming, you'r a useful idiot. (or if you want a break then be nice)

Your ad-hominems are most welcome. I can tell when you're on the ropes  - you call people stupid and call them idiots. Do you think that calling people names demonstrates a superior intellect, or does it demonstrate a profound weakness of character?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
burnsred
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 789
Joined: Sep 11th, 2017
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #12 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:49pm
Print Post  
Quote:
The real libertarian goes all the way and says that government isn't necessary because private enterprise can do everything.

Glad to hear you say that.  Up to now your claiming to be a "real libertarian" while espousing what amounts to a pollyanna version of democratic socialism has been less than productive.

  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 22054
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #13 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 4:45pm
Print Post  
SkyChief wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
Your ad-hominems are most welcome. I can tell when you're on the ropes  - you call people stupid and call them idiots. Do you think that calling people names demonstrates a superior intellect, or does it demonstrate a profound weakness of character?
When I call the Donat a dolt, it's because of a weakness of character.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 22054
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #14 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 4:48pm
Print Post  
burnsred wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
Glad to hear you say that.  Up to now your claiming to be a "real libertarian" while espousing what amounts to a pollyanna version of democratic socialism has been less than productive.

Who were you quoting who thinks government isn't necessary? I'd like to have words with them.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
burnsred
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 789
Joined: Sep 11th, 2017
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #15 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 8:13pm
Print Post  
Quote:
Glad to hear you say that.  Up to now your claiming to be a "real libertarian" while espousing what amounts to a pollyanna version of democratic socialism has been less than productive.

Who were you quoting who thinks government isn't necessary? I'd like to have words with them.
It was Don_G quoting the imaginary voice in head that tells him what "real libertarians" think.  I like that much better than claiming that real libertarians think government is needed to make capitalists socially responsible.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Don_G
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 5069
Location: British Columbia
Joined: May 8th, 2017
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #16 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:16pm
Print Post  
burnsred wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 8:13pm:
It was Don_G quoting the imaginary voice in head that tells him what "real libertarians" think.  I like that much better than claiming that real libertarians think government is needed to make capitalists socially responsible.


Well just ask one burnsred. There are several professional ones on antiwar.com who are so extremist that they believe government can do nothing that private business can't do better. And I've always maintained that government is necessary because government has been proven to do some things better.

Real libertarians like me don't believe in an impossible world. Pseudo-libertarians like you understand that your brand of libertarian is impossible and you've proclaimed that along with the Chief. Real Libertarians also don't pretend that their Libertarian party is ever going to become a possible choice as government.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 22054
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #17 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:33am
Print Post  
burnsred wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 8:13pm:
It was Don_G quoting the imaginary voice in head that tells him what "real libertarians" think.  I like that much better than claiming that real libertarians think government is needed to make capitalists socially responsible.
To the extent that 'capitalists' sometimes break contracts and defraud people, government is needed to make them "socially responsible", which in those cases means holding 'capitalists' to the laws that protect people from force and fraud.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 22054
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #18 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:36am
Print Post  
Don_G wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:16pm:
Well just ask one burnsred. There are several professional ones on antiwar.com who are so extremist that they believe government can do nothing that private business can't do better. And I've always maintained that government is necessary because government has been proven to do some things better.

Real libertarians like me don't believe in an impossible world. Pseudo-libertarians like you understand that your brand of libertarian is impossible and you've proclaimed that along with the Chief. Real Libertarians also don't pretend that their Libertarian party is ever going to become a possible choice as government.
Probably not the Libertarian Party, but the TwoParties are still busy shooting themselves in their collective feet.

Here's some good information to the OP's point-

http://reason.com/archives/2017/10/17/economic-growth-capitalism-improves-stan?u...

Yes, a government that protects economic liberty under a rule of law is being "socially responsible. The results are clear.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
burnsred
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 789
Joined: Sep 11th, 2017
Re: "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Reply #19 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 11:46am
Print Post  
Government's one and only legitimate function is to take the initiation of force out of human interactions.  So the first thing to ask ourselves when we contemplate an action by government is whether that is the purpose of the contemplated action.  Even if it is, we must watch government like a hawk to make sure it doesn't misuse the power we give it.

Having a government is like having a team of guard dogs in your house.  Yes, they can provide some help with security but they have to be constantly reminded that you are the alpha and not them or they will someday turn on you.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 6
Send TopicPrint
 
Libertarian's ForumLibertarian's ForumFreedom Forum › "Socially Responsible Capitalism" is a Redundant Term
Libertarian's Forum

Libertarian's Forum Information Rules, Agreement and Privacy Policy