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Reply #10 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 1:17pm
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I did a quick search for "trump using more drones than Obama"

And got dozens of direct hits. I won't quote any of them because there's no need to prefer one over any of the others.

Burnsred's claim of Obama using more drones is another example of him stepping right smack in the middle of a pile of 'god' shit.
  
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Reply #11 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 3:29pm
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As for bombing and killing more Muslims than any president before him, that's not true. The two illegal and phony wars against Iraq were started by Bush1 and Bush2.
and then continued gleefully by Obama.

You want to advocate for Muslims, you have to get over Obama.  He denied he was still a Muslim if he ever really was one.  He killed and killed and killed Muslim men, women and children in record numbers.  The fact that other presidents did the same may excuse him in your book, but not mine. 

  
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Reply #12 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:41pm
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burnsred wrote on Oct 31st, 2017 at 9:08pm:
Or should we assume that they are not racist until there is evidence that they are racist?  You know, besides the fact that they come from a culture that advocates race violence?


yes unless they ststaed PERSONALLY they are racist

even when i don't like it benefit of the doubt is for everyone if you don't want that you don't want a free society, they commit a crime THEN they will be punished

you are like 99% libetarian burnsred. all you have to do is see that if you dont like benefit of the doubt you gotta say "oh looks like Don is right here take my gun cause i MIGHT commit a crime with it i know i won't but he don't know that just take it".
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:41pm
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Bickeran wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 4:41pm:
yes unless they ststaed PERSONALLY they are racist

even when i don't like it benefit of the doubt is for everyone if you don't want that you don't want a free society, they commit a crime THEN they will be punished

you are like 99% libetarian burnsred. all you have to do is see that if you dont like benefit of the doubt you gotta say "oh looks like Don is right here take my gun cause i MIGHT commit a crime with it i know i won't but he don't know that just take it".


I've never suggested that burnsred will shoot somebody with his guns. But it's a pretty sure bet that some extremist like him will. It happens several times a day in the US.

Why would this terrorist attack in N.Y. stand out so much when he only killed 8. Don't the gungoons manage a mass shooting every day at least?

Yup, the stats show over 30 a month.
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 7:52pm
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Don, can you pause your harangue long enough to answer yes or no to whether the U.S. should invite racists into the country?
  
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Reply #15 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 8:45pm
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Don_G wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
I've never suggested that burnsred will shoot somebody with his guns. But it's a pretty sure bet that some extremist like him will. It happens several times a day in the US.


that's right and when they do they will get punished

that is not an excuse for taking Burn's gun away, or anyone elses

just like immigrant, they have right to travel and Burns will say "no no they raped before keep em out" and just like his gun thy have a right to be here anyway, cause ONE raped, or two raped, but that is not an excuse to take away the rights of OTHERS
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 1st, 2017 at 9:20pm
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So is that a yes or a no to inviting racists into the country?
  
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Reply #17 - Nov 2nd, 2017 at 9:08am
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burnsred wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 8:49am:
So, that's a yes?


What makes you think so?
  
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Reply #18 - Nov 2nd, 2017 at 9:16am
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burnsred wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 8:49am:
That is a very good point.  Before we ever admitted a single immigrant from communist Cuba, we would have been justified in being concerned that they might bring their destructive socialist ideals with them.  What we saw in practice was that nearly all Cuban refugees hated communism for obvious reasons and try to be the opposite of communists in every way possible. 

Sadly, that has not been the case with immigrants from radical Muslim countries as we saw in New York only a short time ago.  (by coincidence, of course). 
Nonsense. Socialist ideas were common at the time of the Founding of America. They called the proponents "levelers". The idea isn't to try to stamp out socialist ideas which would be an evil and tyrannical undertaking that would certainly fail, the idea is to construct a form of government that prevents socialists from destroying Liberty. The easiest way to do that is to recognize and guarantee individual rights to property and to give the government no power to transfer wealth.

Just as "nearly all Cubans" who come to America hate Communism, nearly all Muslims come to America seeking liberty, including religious liberty... Certainly you are aware of factional wars between various Muslim sects? That sort of thing is not allowed in America. No religion here is permitted to become a State Religion and persecute, ban or kill others for religious reasons.
  
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Reply #19 - Nov 2nd, 2017 at 2:21pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 2nd, 2017 at 9:16am:
Nonsense. Socialist ideas were common at the time of the Founding of America. They called the proponents "levelers". The idea isn't to try to stamp out socialist ideas which would be an evil and tyrannical undertaking that would certainly fail, the idea is to construct a form of government that prevents socialists from destroying Liberty. The easiest way to do that is to recognize and guarantee individual rights to property and to give the government no power to transfer wealth.

Just as "nearly all Cubans" who come to America hate Communism, nearly all Muslims come to America seeking liberty, including religious liberty... Certainly you are aware of factional wars between various Muslim sects? That sort of thing is not allowed in America. No religion here is permitted to become a State Religion and persecute, ban or kill others for religious reasons.


Burnsred doesn't like it when you stray from his libertarian ideas. He doesn't think the fanding fouthers were socialists. They were of course. Everybody is a socialist before their political beliefs are perverted by his fascist ideas.
  
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