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Re: Millennials Would Rather Live In Socialist Or Communist Nation
Reply #100 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 4:03pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 2:29pm:
The premise is that people leaving countries with really bad governments want to come to America and make America's government really bad in the same ways that the governments of the countries they left are bad?


This is not the premise, Jeff.

Their goal is not to "come to America and make America's government really bad".  Their goal is to seek a better form of socialism than the one they flee from.

Democrats offer this hope of a "better" socialism.  They offer sanctuary, special consideration, the hope of redistribution of wealth and hopes that everyone will paid the same regardless of their training, education, and performance.

Democrats loathe the rich, the successful. They believe the government should be in control of wages and salaries, and who should be on the Board of Directors of a Corporation.

I don't remember which state it was, but they tried to pass a bill which would require all corporations to have AT LEAST one black female, one black male, one latino, one gay asian, and one lesbian on the board of directors.

The Bill was so unbelievably stupid, it never even made it to the floor for a vote.  But this is how democrats will push for government in control of corporations.
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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Re: Millennials Would Rather Live In Socialist Or Communist Nation
Reply #101 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:01pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 4:03pm:
Their goal is to seek a better form of socialism than the one they flee from.

Grin Grin Grin

Edit: I'd have this "Their goal is to seek a better form of socialism" appear under my name so it would be right there, every time I posted... But I forget how. Embarrassed
  

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Reply #102 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:57pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
Illegal aliens get free education, free medial care, they have babies who go on welfare and get money that is spent by the whole family as they may live a dozen people in a small space.  That you think illegal aliens don't get free shit is you needing to pay more attention


What they say is that it is a stereotype and there is no evidence for that. Maybe the babies can get welfare if they are born here same as any other baby born here everyone I know irl would say you were a racist for saying the babies of immigrants are different from the babies of people who have been here longer.
  
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Reply #103 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 6:36pm
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Industry wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:57pm:
Maybe the babies can get welfare if they are born here...
Nope, their mothers or legal guardians get the welfare money.

Some of them use it to benefit the baby, some don't.
  

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Reply #104 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 6:54pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Nope, their mothers or legal guardians get the welfare money.

Some of them use it to benefit the baby, some don't.


Then why does everyone say that illegal immigrants do not qualify for welfare and are not on welfare and anyone who says that is a racist?
  
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Reply #105 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 6:59pm
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Industry wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
Then why does everyone say that illegal immigrants do not qualify for welfare and are not on welfare and anyone who says that is a racist?
I'm pretty sure longstanding federal law says that people in the country illegally aren't eligible for welfare.

I don't know which Congress and President enacted that law, but I guess they must have been racists.
  

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Reply #106 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 7:08pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 6:59pm:
I'm pretty sure longstanding federal law says that people in the country illegally aren't eligible for welfare.

I don't know which Congress and President enacted that law, but I guess they must have been racists.


Yes by today's standards they probably were it is a bad law the government should not discriminate.
  
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Reply #107 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 7:16pm
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Industry wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
Yes by today's standards they probably were it is a bad law the government should not discriminate.
They're allowed to discriminate 'gainst furriners.

If Congress is good by today's standards, why do we still have that immigration law you think is racist?
  

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Re: Millennials Would Rather Live In Socialist Or Communist Nation
Reply #108 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:28pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 6:22am:
When your bank charges you money to save there, and only risky investments pay more than the rate of real inflation, it makes perfect sense to spend your money as fast as you earn it.

If you aren't earning the money you receive, and have been promised that the payments will continue, you have even more incentive to spend it as fast as you get it.

Add to that the incessant predictions that the world will end in 12 years, and I think you can explain most of the trend towards instant gratification.


I did say that the selective process favours instant gratification. You just gave specifics of that. Thank you: You're agreeing with me.

Industry wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 2:44pm:
By your definition then you are the only libertarian here all the rest are like tie them down don't let em go to the island.


Hmm. Perhaps I need to get a better definition of libertarian, then. I know: I'll do what Kaz suggests and buy a dictionary.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/libertarian?s=t
libertarian
1. a person who advocates liberty, especially with regard to thought or conduct.
2. a person who maintains the doctrine of free will (distinguished from necessitarian).

Now I understand.

Cool
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Millennials Would Rather Live In Socialist Or Communist Nation
Reply #109 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 7:21am
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
I did say that the selective process favours instant gratification. You just gave specifics of that. Thank you: You're agreeing with me.


Hmm. Perhaps I need to get a better definition of libertarian, then. I know: I'll do what Kaz suggests and buy a dictionary.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/libertarian?s=t
libertarian
1. a person who advocates liberty, especially with regard to thought or conduct.
2. a person who maintains the doctrine of free will (distinguished from necessitarian).

Now I understand.

Cool


Now look up "statist"
  

Contest winner:  I predicted Kaz' meltdown
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