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Reply #20 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 12:26pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 7:03am:
Are the laws regarding "mental illness" different where you are now?


Mental illness is just something 'out of the norm' in non-extreme cases. It's especially interesting in Jeff's case of his need to buy into conspiracy theories!

Something to keep an eye on even though he's going to be on the defensive for a while.

Or

It's too powerful in him to even let go for a minute. I've offered him a few hooks so we'll see if he can resist?
  
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Reply #21 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 2:25pm
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Reply #22 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 2:34pm
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Reply #23 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 2:48pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
I don't read psychology today.



You will. Especially this one that explains about conspiracy theories and why supposed libertarians hook into them so easily.

Imagine monkey boy, somebody actually questioning why a car burst into flames! Fuc-ing weird!

The government caused the crash by maybe doing something with the brakes? Then they planted a bomb in the car that would make it burn. And they did this to two people who were in the area in which people were shot and injured or killed?

Is that what you're thinking or do you have another better story?
  
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Reply #24 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 2:53pm
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Don_G wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 2:25pm:

This article has some glaring errors and misrepresentations.  Here are a few;

"So why is libertarianism unfair?  It rejects any responsibility for our mutual right to life, where we are all created approximately equal."

bullshit.

"Conservatives hold a strong preference for individual freedom. But they traditionally have recognized a limited role for government in smoothing the rough edges of a free society."

Its not the role of government to smooth the rough edges of a free society. Government's role is to preserve individual liberties and protect the homeland from foreign invaders.  PERIOD.

"Many libertarians seem to be myopic about the prevalence of self-interested "organizations" in the marketplace,..."

Dear lord.  {{{{facepalm}}}} One would need to be a mouth-breather idiot to not understand that a private business has self-interests. But Peter Corning has discovered that "Many libertarians seem to be myopic".

What a load of crap.   Corning is obviously a regressive moonbat. No wonder he denigrates libertarians and our ideas.
  
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Reply #25 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 5:21pm
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About 98% of the population denigrate libertarians but they're out of step of course. You have to be some kind of libertarian to not be able to understand that.  The 1 or 2% who are will rule the world someday!

Soon?
  
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Reply #26 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 6:20pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 2:53pm:
"Many libertarians seem to be myopic about the prevalence of self-interested "organizations" in the marketplace,..."

Dear lord.  {{{{facepalm}}}} One would need to be a mouth-breather idiot to not understand that a private business has self-interests. But Peter Corning has discovered that "Many libertarians seem to be myopic".


I have to disagree here.

Libertarians will tell you that the Free Market makes self-interest impossible; that the business just has to do whatever is best for the business. They'll go out of business otherwise. Competition only produces good results.

It doesn't. I've explained many times to Jeff and given examples, like FedEx. They use terrible practices, cheat customers, buy bigger contracts, spend more on advertising, and leave the people who give the customer more service and accurate delivery times - UPS and the Post Office - in the dust by doing it.

Often, in a free market, one cheater or corner-cutter will force all the other competitors to adopt the same shady practice to keep up, rather than competition producing better results for the customer.

I've said before and will say again that only the free market is moral, because only the free market respects property rights absolutely, and property rights are absolute. This does not mean that the free market works well or is beneficial to anyone but the businesses.

Don_G wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 5:21pm:
About 98% of the population denigrate libertarians but they're out of step of course. You have to be some kind of libertarian to not be able to understand that.  The 1 or 2% who are will rule the world someday!

Soon?


They don't want to rule the world. They want no one to, because that's the only thing that's right.
  

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Reply #27 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 6:49pm
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
I have to disagree here.

Libertarians will tell you that the Free Market makes self-interest impossible...
As you often do, you start with a falsehood. The general liberty that we value so highly allows you to be just as self-interested as you want.

What we say economically is that the best way to serve your interest in having a successful business is to produce products people want at a price they are willing to pay.
  
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Re: Libertarianism and Mental Illness
Reply #28 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:11am
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This is topical-

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/12/army-lifts-ban-recruits-...

It's bound to work out badly for everyone. These people are almost certain to have been given (will still be given) drugs like those taken by the Las Vegas shooter for depression, drugs that seem to be a factor in many senseless murders.
  
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Reply #29 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 10:08am
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These people are almost certain to have been given (will still be given) drugs like those taken by the Las Vegas shooter for depression, drugs that seem to be a factor in many senseless murders.
Yes, and it is the factor today that is different from previous decades. 

Not very logical to blame the 2nd amendment, which has been around for two hundred years.  Under a libertarian system, there would be much greater discussion of the harmful effects of the medications the pharmaceutical industry pushes through doctors to patients. 

  
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