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Re: Is voluntary taxation a practical alternative?
Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:56pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
The Data Tax would be for individuals only - it wouldn't apply to data centers and big companies.

Yes, free wi-fi will be a thing of the past.

so u want to have sef enployed ,smail biznsses and mid size biznesses pay the tax also u knowe google and amozon the owners of youtube and twitch will not let this happen
  
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Re: Is voluntary taxation a practical alternative?
Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:56pm
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Oooooo, let's hear how pseudo-libertarians can think up some new taxes to take the place on income tax. Yup, that'll work!
  
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Re: Is voluntary taxation a practical alternative?
Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:11pm
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thermf5 wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
so u want to have sef enployed ,smail biznsses and mid size biznesses pay the tax

The Self employed, small businesses and mid-sized businesses currently pay a very high Income Tax. I'm proposing the Data Tax as one of many practical alternatives to the Income Tax.

thermf5 wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
also u knowe google and amozon the owners of youtube and twitch will not let this happen

Congress will have the ultimate say in the matter.  Youtube and Twitch don't make our laws in the US.
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:16pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:11pm:
The Self employed, small businesses and mid-sized businesses currently pay a very high Income Tax. I'm proposing the Data Tax as one of many practical alternatives to the Income Tax.

Congress will have the ultimate say in the matter.  Youtube and Twitch don't make our laws in the US.

no but lobbyists do and even since citzen unighted thay have bin free to bribe any member of congress
  
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Re: Is voluntary taxation a practical alternative?
Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:22pm
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The Self employed, small businesses and mid-sized businesses currently pay a very high Income Tax.


In truth, lower than in most other first world countries. Pseudo-libertarian bullshit and lies need to be challenged.

It's all about relying on the number up front when in fact the truth is in the details.

Details such as deductions, exemptions, special deals, and other methods that give businesses an unfair break over the working class.

The American mindset is propagandized into upholding the unfair system. And that's the reason ordinary people are so pissed off with the system. In the case of the people on this forum, turning against the major parties and trying out some batshit craziness as we see!

Voluntary taxation?

Duhhhhhhhhhhhh, how's that workin out so far?
  
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Re: Is voluntary taxation a practical alternative?
Reply #15 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:34pm
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thermf5 wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
no but lobbyists do and even since citzen unighted thay have bin free to bribe any member of congress

With all the Tax alternatives I have proposed, the tax burden will be lifted to all taxpayers.  Everyone will see a tremendous relief from not having to pay Income Taxes.  There's no rational reason why lobbyists would oppose abolishing Income Tax. (that I can see, anyways)

Were you aware that Americans spend 8.9 billion man-hours and $409 BILLION just on tax preparation?
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:35pm
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Don_G wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
In truth, lower than in most other first world countries. Pseudo-libertarian bullshit and lies need to be challenged.

It's all about relying on the number up front when in fact the truth is in the details.

Details such as deductions, exemptions, special deals, and other methods that give businesses an unfair break over the working class.

The American mindset is propagandized into upholding the unfair system. And that's the reason ordinary people are so pissed off with the system. In the case of the people on this forum, turning against the major parties and trying out some batshit craziness as we see!

Voluntary taxation?

Duhhhhhhhhhhhh, how's that workin out so far?

u know that libertarians are like anerkists there are many forms and some apose one another but most people think is one thing
  
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Re: Is voluntary taxation a practical alternative?
Reply #17 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 4:38pm
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Don_G wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
In truth, lower than in most other first world countries..
Which one's should we be "more like" now? Greece? Italy? France? Spain?

Maybe Venezuela... Remember when Venezuela was a first world country?
  
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Re: Is voluntary taxation a practical alternative?
Reply #18 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:13pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
Which one's should we be "more like" now? Greece? Italy? France? Spain?

Maybe Venezuela... Remember when Venezuela was a first world country?

The Scandinavian countries. Are you happy? You don't sound very happy. Those people are the happiest in the world. And they pay more taxes! How could that be?
  
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Re: Is voluntary taxation a practical alternative?
Reply #19 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:46pm
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Don_G wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:13pm:
The Scandinavian countries. Are you happy? You don't sound very happy. Those people are the happiest in the world. And they pay more taxes! How could that be?

cuz there coulture is not the same as the usa what works in japan wont nessarly work in any other country thats y i am for states rights and this overbarning fedaral government that think every thing is a one size fits all problem
  
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