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Reply #10 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:10pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 5:10pm:
But I have. I've known many of you. I punched one of you to the ground (the floor of the school bus) when I was 16.
Edit: That would make it 1966. You haven't changed at all, asshole.

well jeff i woyuld have pull as knife or a gun on u if u tryed to actoack me just for my ideas and how are the reaceist system gana belive someone that has white skin or a man closer to the mother land of humanity how many people died of the death pentaly that where latter proven iocent by the inocents project unless u lied to me abought being black witch is fine jeff are u a member of antifa u cant just actck people for havve a drifrenmt pov
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:41pm
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 4:29pm:
Oh - Like when Hillary said "It takes a village to raise a child".   

I don't agree with that philosophy at all.
What Hillary was talking about was using the power of government to create "Village People" in the image she imagined.

What I'm talking about is people in widely varied communities realizing that it's a good idea to not allow a bunch of barbarians to grow up in the community, and to help each other civilize all of the children around them in various individual ways that members of the community think will work.

My solution is how free people create and maintain civilization.

Hillary's idea is that government should determine how villages should behave when it comes to raising children.

They are diametrically opposed ideas.
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:44pm
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thermf5 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:10pm:
well jeff i woyuld have pull as knife or a gun on u if u tryed to actoack me just for my ideas...
I punched the idiot to the ground because his egoistic ideas made him think I should do what he said, which was to shut up and let him do what he wanted to one of the young women on the bus. Had he pulled a knife, I would have hurt him very badly.
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:59pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:44pm:
I punched the idiot to the ground because his egoistic ideas made him think I should do what he said, which was to shut up and let him do what he wanted to one of the young women on the bus. Had he pulled a knife, I would have hurt him very badly.

as a vitem of rape and a person who belives in gender equlty plz do not compare me to that person if i was that kis father the female she would not leve the hopse with out a gun or a kniofe it is her job to protect her self but i get it  it was sexest times i hope that crappity smacker isz dead i think all rapeist should die
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 8:23pm
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thermf5 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:59pm:
as a vitem of rape and a person who belives in gender equlty plz do not compare me to that person if i was that kis father the female she would not leve the hopse with out a gun or a kniofe it is her job to protect her self but i get it  it was sexest times i hope that crappity smacker isz dead i think all rapeist should die
As long as you understand I didn't punch his face just for his ideas.

HE WAS AN EGOIST WHO THOUGHT HE WAS KING OF THE WORLD AND COULD DO ANYTHING HE WANTED TO DO TO ANYBODY.

For his ideas, I laughed at him.

When he acted on some of his ideas in my presence, I punched him to the ground.
  
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Reply #15 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 8:47pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 8:23pm:
As long as you understand I didn't punch his face just for his ideas.

HE WAS AN EGOIST WHO THOUGHT HE WAS KING OF THE WORLD AND COULD DO ANYTHING HE WANTED TO DO TO ANYBODY.

For his ideas, I laughed at him.

When he acted on some of his ideas in my presence, I punched him to the ground.

i am the the king of the world just my self and am accountable to sotdy for my actions i have no right to rule over other just my just btw i thing he was a narsist i just want to kill people that have crappity smacked me over but i also dont wana get locked up i know the best i can hope for is to run in to some big money and fade in to the backrould i am not the coke bothers that what to brib the shit out of are repersentives to get my way i just know what best for me and know its toxic for most people
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 3:04am
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 4:29pm:
Sorry, I didn't mean to misrepresent what you said.

Oh - Like when Hillary said "It takes a village to raise a child".   

I don't agree with that philosophy at all.  I don't want the values of others to sully the values I impart on my children.  That's how they created the socialists millennials - leaving child-rearing up to the leftist teachers.



New guy here. So hi.

Out of curiosity. Do you have any children? I ask because the only way your kid will only have your morals is if they never interact with anyone else.

There is nothing you can do to make sure your children's  morals exactly reflect yours. Theirs will change as they grow and as they interact with other people. My grown daughters moral center is very different from my own even though we did a pretty good job raising them. And their morals are very different from each other.

Away. Personal responsibility isn't something you can teach. It has to be learned. And a part of making sure that society or a community learns it is making sure there are comcequences for the decisions those individuals make.
  
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Reply #17 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 3:43am
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Thumper wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 3:04am:
New guy here. So hi.

Out of curiosity. Do you have any children? I ask because the only way your kid will only have your morals is if they never interact with anyone else.

There is nothing you can do to make sure your children's  morals exactly reflect yours. Theirs will change as they grow and as they interact with other people. My grown daughters moral center is very different from my own even though we did a pretty good job raising them. And their morals are very different from each other.

Away. Personal responsibility isn't something you can teach. It has to be learned. And a part of making sure that society or a community learns it is making sure there are comcequences for the decisions those individuals make.

if i have a kids i weould just gide them on there path but not push then in to any thing
  
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Reply #18 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 3:48am
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I thought that when my kids were young. But I learned over time sometimes you have to push them one way or another for their own good. Let them make their own decisions until they've proven unable to do so responsibly.
  
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Reply #19 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 8:28am
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Thumper wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 3:48am:
I thought that when my kids were young. But I learned over time sometimes you have to push them one way or another for their own good. Let them make their own decisions until they've proven unable to do so responsibly.
I think it's essential to let them know very early on that "No, that's not yours", and also "No, you aren't allowed to hit people just because they won't do what you want" and "Well, if you want money to buy things, you'll have to figure out a way to earn some".
Simple stuff that is the basis of individual responsibility.

I also think forcing children to share is a bad idea. They can be told very young that if they never share anything with the other kids, lots of the other kids won't like them much, and maybe that's why Billy doesn't want to play with you anymore, but the decision to share or not should be theirs.
You can also tell them that you can't buy a friend. They need to think about it from both sides, test it out for themselves, see what happens.
  
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