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Reply #550 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:20pm
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I know. Even though I'm not sure what that entails. You can elaborate on it if you like?


If you'd been paying attention, you'd know I have, many times.
  
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Reply #551 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:23pm
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I know, but we can't correct everything he babbles on about. He just happened to get it basically right on needing good leadership.


Thanks. Now I'll end this one because you're starting to 'go off'.
  
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Reply #552 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:23pm
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I know, but we can't correct everything he babbles on about. He just happened to get it basically right on needing good leadership.
The Constitution is designed to make sure that bad "leaders" can't do harm to America, and we don't really have "leaders" in our government. People imagine the President is a "leader" but his Constitutional role is to faithfully execute the laws... That makes him a follower.
  
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Reply #553 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:31pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
The Constitution is designed to make sure that bad "leaders" can't do harm to America, and we don't really have "leaders" in our government. People imagine the President is a "leader" but his Constitutional role is to faithfully execute the laws... That makes him a follower.


This could become a good discussion. Remember how Obama did irreparable damage to America when he came to agreement with Putin on eliminating all of Syria's chem/bio weapons? Remember how that empowered Russia to get into Syria as an aid to Assad in eliminating the terrorist threat?

the point is, no president is going to be held back by anything your constitution says.

Not since Bush1.

Or longer?
  
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Reply #554 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:32pm
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This could become a good discussion. Remember how Obama did irreparable damage to America when he came to agreement with Putin on eliminating all of Syria's chem/bio weapons? Remember how that empowered Russia to get into Syria as an aid to Assad in eliminating the terrorist threat?

the point is, no president is going to be held back by anything your constitution says.

Not since Bush1.

Or longer?


The thing is boss, when I can keep you from going off, we get into discussions in which we end up agreeing on important issues. And that's not meant to make you 'go off' early.
  
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Reply #555 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:36pm
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the point is, no president is going to be held back by anything your constitution says.
Not so long as Congress lets presidents get away with things anyway... That can change.
  
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Jeff wrote on Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
Not so long as Congress lets presidents get away with things anyway... That can change.


Maybe?
  
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Reply #557 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 4:34pm
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Maybe?
Ask Ruby.

Didn't you tell me she was a Witch with powers to see the future?
  
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Reply #558 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:56am
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Jeff wrote on Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:13pm:
The Chief is delusional about what he thinks the President can do.


Prove it. Prove Skychief has said the President can do something he actually cannot do.

Because I don't see where he's claiming something flat illogical like that the President can sprout wings and fly.
  

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Re: Nobody Is 100% Libertarian
Reply #559 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:13am
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:56am:
Prove it. Prove Skychief has said the President can do something he actually cannot do.

Because I don't see where he's claiming something flat illogical like that the President can sprout wings and fly.
Here's what the Chief said-

"Currently, 62% of all revenues derived from income taxes are spent on non-essential crony defense contractors, and entitlements.

These things can easily be eliminated with the stroke of a [President's] pen."

The President can't eliminate Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid or "welfare" (including corporate welfare) "with the stroke of a pen". Nor can he stop the funding of defense or do much if anything to eliminate defense spending he might think is "non-essential"... The President's own Dept of Defense can't even close military bases it doesn't need or want, Congress won't let them.
  
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