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Reply #670 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 11:56am
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 11:25am:
Actual communism has a maximum communism point, and cannot add more communism after that without everyone starving.

Capitalist countries can add much more communism as they continue to parasitize the vestiges of capitalism.


This is true but my friend was just being sarcastic.  Actually, there is no communism and I don't think there ever was.  Countries like China and Vietnam are the absolutely most Capitalistic places I have ever been to.  Sure government guys pull out the comrade shit when they want to jail you for interfering in their profit schemes but after that, they go back to their high rise luxury penthouse and sip LOUIS Xlll.  I've sipped it with them.
  
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Reply #671 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 12:00pm
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yamcha wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 2:37am:
Funny thing chief, we both live in California (me, born and raised) so we know what it is about and we (probably) have both are financially, socially and emotionally invested here.

We know how to accurately measure the pros and cons.

California is the state that really shows the scars of illegal immigration.  California has the highest voter fraud of any state.

The Democrats celebrate this fact.    Angry

There are other detrimental impacts from illegal immigration. . .  too many to list here. 

California Taxpayers are the ones who must pick up the slack.   There's not many of us left, so our tax burden is unbearably high.
  
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Reply #672 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 12:15pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
California is the state that really shows the scars of illegal immigration.  California has the highest voter fraud of any state.

The Democrats celebrate this fact.    Angry
What is your evidence for this?  I realize they've basically just legalized a form of voter fraud but is there actual evidence that it is happening?  Its kind of funny actually, Dems have made a big deal of some local pol in one of the Carolina's harvesting votes but they've totally ignored that its totally legal in CA and probably did result in a number of offices changing hands. 

To clear, vote harvesting isn't necessarily voter fraud it just makes voter fraud super easy. 
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There are other detrimental impacts from illegal immigration. . .  too many to list here. 

California Taxpayers are the ones who must pick up the slack.   There's not many of us left, so our tax burden is unbearably high.


CA government basically views taxpayers as bad guys who need to be punished, as Jerry Brown said, they are just folks who have extracted more of their share from the public than others. 

They also clearly demonstrate the pit falls of a heavily progressive income tax.  High earners incomes are closely tied to the economy as a whole, therefore, CA tax revenues drop dramatically in bad economic times.  High earners are also more adept at hiding their income and exploiting loop holes but that isn't as big a problem.
  
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Re: Nobody Is 100% Libertarian
Reply #673 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 12:27pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
California Taxpayers are the ones who must pick up the slack.   There's not many of us left, so our tax burden is unbearably high.


There are people moving out of CA but then there are actually many more people moving in from other states.  There is no shortage of taxpayers and the state knows that.

Chief, I want you to vote yes to all tax propositions that come along your way.  YES TO ALL!  The only way to save California is to push it off the cliff.
  
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Reply #674 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 12:54pm
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yamcha wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
Chief, I want you to vote yes to all tax propositions that come along your way.  YES TO ALL!  The only way to save California is to push it off the cliff.

It's just not in my DNA.

It would be like asking a Muslim to eat a ham sandwich.    Undecided
  
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Reply #675 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 2:05pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 11:25am:
Actual communism has a maximum communism point, and cannot add more communism after that without everyone starving.

Actual communism is wonderful lizard, everyone works to the best of their ability and tosses everything they produce into the communal pot, where anyone who needs something can find it.
  

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Reply #676 - Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:45pm
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Have CoSecretaries of USA Departments and prohibit a maximum of two hours or less for night shift job hours per night per week per year per millenium.

More proportionalisms as at least options.

FDR’s New Deal apparently didn’t have Justice be a freedom.  No Justice = no peace (a direct cause of WWII)
  
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Re: Nobody Is 100% Libertarian
Reply #677 - Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:54pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:45pm:
Have CoSecretaries of USA Departments and prohibit a maximum of two hours or less for night shift job hours per night per week per year per millenium.

More proportionalisms as at least options.

FDR’s New Deal apparently didn’t have Justice be a freedom.  No Justice = no peace (a direct cause of WWII)
How are things going in your country?

Is "Justice" a "freedom" where you live? What are the concrete results of it if you have it as a "freedom"?

How many libertarians are speaking out about it where you live?


  

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