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Re: Are the Libertarians here Emotionally Prepared to Watch People Starve
Reply #10 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:07pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:49am:
Societies where people have economic freedom tend to be prosperous, so there are options for people other than starvation or charity.

If someone simply refuses to work, and no one is offering to help them (which is unlikely since there are charities that feed people without asking any questions at all) keep a close eye on them. They are the type of person who is probably going to steal something. It's why so many towns passed laws against vagrancy.

But really, other than at times when governments created huge economic collapses, or in times of plague or war or general failure of the crops, there never were people starving in the streets.


For you jeff, who has remarked many times on the evil of the barbarians, it's hard to take you seriously on this post. You either don't understand the evil you're promoting or you're just trying to get attention.

Right now I think it's the latter but it also could be that burnsred has found the button to push that can bring out the worst in you. Don't tell us, we'll figure it out pretty quick!
  
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Re: Are the Libertarians here Emotionally Prepared to Watch People Starve
Reply #11 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:08pm
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The Opposition wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 9:55pm:
They're not just going to passively die.

They will start to steal.

They will aggress.

There are millions of them.

Whatever you're paying to keep these people alive, quintuple it. You will be paying that for private security.


That's logic that's impossible to ignore! If only you would stop the therm scam you're playing.
  
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The Opposition wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
An irrefutable moralist case.

Just remember that it won't end with dollars.

The welfare class will attack the people too poor to pay for private security, but still productive. They'll form gangs. They'll have numbers. This sort of behaviour has been set in stone since ancient Sumeria. Civilisations have fallen through no fault of their own, but to waves of disenfranchised poor people.
My first question is, "do our poor really have that much energy?"  Next is, "do our poor really have that kind of organizational skills?"  Then, "would honest people really submit to that or will they be better organized and better armed and simply wipe those gangs out, thus solving the entire problem?" 

In Texas, at least, the answer to that last is that such gangs would only thrive within the hellhole neighborhoods our welfare system has created.  As soon as they came out, well armed citizens would quickly exterminate them.

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Throughout history, people who are just barely able to sustain have been easy targets for those who demand much more than sustenance.
One of the many reasons that we have a natural right to bear arms, regardless of how hte 2nd amendment spins it.



  

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Reply #13 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 5:57pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
For you jeff, who has remarked many times on the evil of the barbarians...
Thanks. I didn't think you noticed! Kiss
  
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SnarkySack wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 5:06pm:
My first question is, "do our poor really have that much energy?"
Let me think... you are 50 years old, have never worked...

Instead, you have laid on the couch eating junk food, drinking beer and smoking lots of cigarettes because you could, somebody else was paying for it all...

Do you have "energy"?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
  
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SnarkySack wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 5:06pm:
My first question is, "do our poor really have that much energy?"  Next is, "do our poor really have that kind of organizational skills?"  Then, "would honest people really submit to that or will they be better organized and better armed and simply wipe those gangs out, thus solving the entire problem?" 

In Texas, at least, the answer to that last is that such gangs would only thrive within the hellhole neighborhoods our welfare system has created.  As soon as they came out, well armed citizens would quickly exterminate them.

One of the many reasons that we have a natural right to bear arms, regardless of how hte 2nd amendment spins it.



The problems are always going to be traced back to extreme right ideologiy burnsred. Be it your overloaded jails or your overabundance of people on the dole.

The solution is always going to be in making sure it doesn't deteriorate to that. Stopping the cause of overloaded jails with recidivism rates at 80% or hordes of people who don't want to work, takes the same sort of measures. Socialist or socially responsible, it amounts to the same thing.

IN the meantime, another xmas will come and go with Americans bitching and complaining and not being happy.

Unless you go to Norway for the holidays where I hear the happiness is infectious. Why burnsred, even Canada can be a break from the misery!
  
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
The problems are always going to be traced back to extreme right ideologiy...
"Progressives"? Yes.
Finally, you see the light!
  
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Reply #17 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:13pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 6:39pm:
"Progressives"? Yes.
Finally, you see the light!


You're an inbred southern mutt. Baby jeezuz will punish you for getting intimate with your first cousin. Bugger off and see if one of the other mutts will entertain you for a while.


  
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
You're an inbred southern mutt.
A Cracker? Not me. I'm a certified Redneck Mothercrappity smacker from Ohio.
  
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Jeff wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
A Cracker? Not me. I'm a certified Redneck Mothercrappity smacker from Ohio.


You're a mutt, pretending to be a human. YOur xtian bent gives you away.
  
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