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Reply #10 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:07pm
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Don_G wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:05pm:
Polygamy would quickly lead to a 'more' corrupt society


Leftists:  Gay government marriage has to be allowed, it's not up to us who marries whom!

What about polygamy?

Leftists:  No, are you crazy?  It's up to us who marries whom ...
  

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Reply #11 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:16pm
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kaz wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 11:27am:
No, Jeff was advocating that government discriminate between citizens and getting a piece of saying who you're screwing should lead you to a tax break not available to other citizens.

All our problems with government if you think about it has specific roots in government discriminating between citizens.  Divide and conquer


I'm with kaz on this one. Smiley
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:20pm
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Marriage should be completely out of government control, I personally don't agree with gay marriage being Christian but it should not matter what I or whoever happens to be in power at the time thinks. If two men or two women want to get married, it has nothing to do with the government or anyone else but them.
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:30pm
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Desiderius wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:20pm:
Marriage should be completely out of government control, I personally don't agree with gay marriage being Christian but it should not matter what I or whoever happens to be in power at the time thinks. If two men or two women want to get married, it has nothing to do with the government or anyone else but them.


Gay marriage is accepted by libertarians and most others in a modern society. It's not being seriously challenged by many people anymore.

You err in thinking that government must be completely kept ouf of marriage. If only because of the necessity for fair taxation, but that's far from the only reason.

Keep a firm grip on reality at all times as you explore libertarianism. That can lead you to honest and possible libertariansim.
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:33pm
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Don_G wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:30pm:
Gay marriage is accepted by libertarians and most others in a modern society. It's not being seriously challenged by many people anymore.

You err in thinking that government must be completely kept ouf of marriage. If only because of the necessity for fair taxation, but that's far from the only reason.

Keep a firm grip on reality at all times as you explore libertarianism. That can lead you to honest and possible libertariansim.

I thought the Libertarian view was that the government was to be kept out  of affairs such as marriage.
  
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Reply #15 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:35pm
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Desiderius wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:33pm:
I thought the Libertarian view was that the government was to be kept out  of affairs such as marriage.


It is.  Just FYI Don is a socialist and the site troll.  He doesn't know anything about libertarian.  He just posts that we aren't real libertarians because we aren't socialists
  

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Reply #16 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:37pm
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kaz wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:35pm:
It is.  Just FYI Don is a socialist and the site troll.  He doesn't know anything about libertarian.  He just posts that we aren't real libertarians because we aren't socialists

Oh, I see lol
  
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Reply #17 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:41pm
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Desiderius wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:33pm:
I thought the Libertarian view was that the government was to be kept out  of affairs such as marriage.


That's not practical. So as I've told you, stay with the practical and the possible.

Smaller government is possible but it's not an easy task to accomplish and it needs careful consideration on how to go about achieving it.

Don't rush ahead on this if indeed you're a beginner to the ideology. And keep in mind at all times, if a libertarian suggests impossibilities then the are only pseudo-libertarians with a mind to hijacking real libertarianism.

Perhaps you would like to start with a real conversation on smaller government?
  
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Reply #18 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:47pm
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Don_G wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:41pm:
That's not practical. So as I've told you, stay with the practical and the possible.

Smaller government is possible but it's not an easy task to accomplish and it needs careful consideration on how to go about achieving it.

Don't rush ahead on this if indeed you're a beginner to the ideology. And keep in mind at all times, if a libertarian suggests impossibilities then the are only pseudo-libertarians with a mind to hijacking real libertarianism.

Perhaps you would like to start with a real conversation on smaller government?

How would you describe "real libertarianism"?
  
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Re: At Least All Libertarians Can Agree on Gay Marriage, Right?
Reply #19 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:52pm
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Don_G wrote on Dec 31st, 2017 at 12:41pm:
That's not practical. So as I've told you, stay with the practical and the possible.

Smaller government is possible but it's not an easy task to accomplish and it needs careful consideration on how to go about achieving it.

Don't rush ahead on this if indeed you're a beginner to the ideology. And keep in mind at all times, if a libertarian suggests impossibilities then the are only pseudo-libertarians with a mind to hijacking real libertarianism.

Perhaps you would like to start with a real conversation on smaller government?


Gotcha, troll.  People can't make their own decisions, government has to make it for them because government is all knowing and wise, far more than the people.

You see any conflicts in your view?  Like that government is made up of ... wait for it ... wait some more ... people.  So your argument is we can't make our own decisions, but we can make decisions over the lives of others ...  Didn't think that one through, did you, troll?
  

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