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Re: Why did We Need an Amendment to Ban Alcohol?
Reply #40 - Jan 5th, 2018 at 11:54am
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SnarkySack wrote on Jan 5th, 2018 at 11:26am:
Too much work to catch someone texting and driving and then go to court to testify.  Much easier to set speed limits artificially low and then use radar guns to document when people exceed them.  Red light cams are the best form of that kind of "crime fighting."  The key revenue enhancer for those is to set the amber light for about half the time of non-camera lights and you can catch lots of people in the intersection on red.  In Texas, you don't even get to go to court to fight a red light camera ticket.  it comes in the mail and you can pay it or lose your license. 

Meanwhile, if I ever had a police emergency, I wouldn't bother with 911.  I have a Starbucks about a mile from my house on speed dial.  I drive past it at least twice a day and there are almost always police, sheriff and/or constable cars gathered there. 



Without you telling us, who would have ever known how bad things are in Texas?
  
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Reply #41 - Jan 5th, 2018 at 12:00pm
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Don_G wrote on Jan 5th, 2018 at 11:54am:
Without you telling us, who would have ever known how bad things are in Texas?


Yes, and Texas is the most libertarian state in the nation, as far as I know.

Just out of curiosity, growing up in New Jersey, you have never pumped your own gas?


  

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Reply #42 - Jan 5th, 2018 at 12:06pm
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SnarkySack wrote on Jan 5th, 2018 at 12:00pm:
Yes, and Texas is the most libertarian state in the nation, as far as I know.

Just out of curiosity, growing up in New Jersey, you have never pumped your own gas?




Who said I 'grew up' in New Jersey? I've pumped my own gas and also had it pumped for me.

Employing people to pump gas is a great idea!
  
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Reply #43 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:14pm
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My Green Party friend (chip burcham) told me that he got interns of Congressman Emanuel Cleaver, II, United States Senators Claire McCaskill and Roy Blunt to have those three legislators introduce and vote for legislation that requires a person (that is drunk because of alcohol poisoning and that kills another person because of drunk driving or drunk piloting) to pay a $100 million restitution payment to next of kin of that killed person, and if said drunk driver or drunk pilot can't pay, then that drunk driver or drunk pilot may work off remaining amount of money in prison (those interns said that they'd pass that along to respective legislators).  chip also told me that he got Missouri State Representative Ira Anders to have any death caused by drunk driving or drunk piloting be interpreted by court as 2nd degree murder because driver(s) or pilot(s) that chose to get drunk, and killed other person(s), as result of that drunkenness each get 20 year minimum years in prison.
  
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Re: Why did We Need an Amendment to Ban Alcohol?
Reply #44 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:17pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
My Green Party friend (chip burcham) told me that he got interns of Congressman Emanuel Cleaver, II, United States Senators Claire McCaskill and Roy Blunt to have those three legislators introduce and vote for legislation that requires a person (that is drunk because of alcohol poisoning and that kills another person because of drunk driving or drunk piloting) to pay a $100 million restitution payment to next of kin of that killed person, and if said drunk driver or drunk pilot can't pay, then that drunk driver or drunk pilot may work off remaining amount of money in prison (those interns said that they'd pass that along to respective legislators).  chip also told me that he got Missouri State Representative Ira Anders to have any death caused by drunk driving or drunk piloting be interpreted by court as 2nd degree murder because driver(s) or pilot(s) that chose to get drunk, and killed other person(s), as result of that drunkenness each get 20 year minimum years in prison.
It's manslaughter. Let the courts deal with it like they do all manslaughter. The Congress actually has no grant of authority in the area of police power or the courts... What part of the Constitution do these people think gives them the power to make sentencing rules for crimes that States have jurisdiction over?
  
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Reply #45 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:07pm
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Billie wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:17pm:
It's manslaughter. Let the courts deal with it like they do all manslaughter. The Congress actually has no grant of authority in the area of police power or the courts... What part of the Constitution do these people think gives them the power to make sentencing rules for crimes that States have jurisdiction over?


Do nothing and allow Americans to kill their fellow Americans. The rest of the world can watch the slaughter and learn a lesson what not to ever allow their countries to become.
  
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Re: Why did We Need an Amendment to Ban Alcohol?
Reply #46 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 7:43am
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Don_G wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:07pm:
Do nothing and allow Americans to kill their fellow Americans.
You imagine that disarming people will prevent people from killing people. That's because you are a dolt.
  
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Reply #47 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 7:47am
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Don_G wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:07pm:
The rest of the world can watch the slaughter and learn a lesson what not to ever allow their countries to become.
In your muddled evil mind, you think preventing governments from exercising authoritarian tyranny somehow turns people into viscous animals... It is in fact the authoritarians who are the viscous animals.

Free people do very well with only limited government to punish people who commit aggression.

Did you look at that county by county homicide map yet? America's murders are almost all committed where "progressive" governments have been "shaping" a "Great Society" for generations.
  
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Re: Why did We Need an Amendment to Ban Alcohol?
Reply #48 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:56pm
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Billie wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 7:47am:
In your muddled evil mind, you think preventing governments from exercising authoritarian tyranny somehow turns people into viscous animals... It is in fact the authoritarians who are the viscous animals.

Free people do very well with only limited government to punish people who commit aggression.

Did you look at that county by county homicide map yet? America's murders are almost all committed where "progressive" governments have been "shaping" a "Great Society" for generations.


There's no need to look at your map. You've already admitted that there is no county in which there have been no homicides.

When I look at homicide in the US I do it as a comparison to other countries. You could accomplish something for yourself by at least being aware of the comparisons to modern first world countries. Don't get testy with me for being the messenger. No American is going to bring the truth to this forum on topics such as this.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-vs-western-homicide-rates-2014-11

  I'm just asking you to not bury your head in the sand and ignore the facts.
  
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Re: Why did We Need an Amendment to Ban Alcohol?
Reply #49 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 4:05pm
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Don_G wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:56pm:
There's no need to look at your map. You've already admitted that there is no county in which there have been no homicides.

When I look at homicide in the US I do it as a comparison to other countries. You could accomplish something for yourself by at least being aware of the comparisons to modern first world countries. Don't get testy with me for being the messenger. No American is going to bring the truth to this forum on topics such as this.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-vs-western-homicide-rates-2014-11

  I'm just asking you to not bury your head in the sand and ignore the facts.


Your assertion that there have been no homicides in Europe is bizarrely counter-factual.  Between 1935 and 1945, more than seventy million people were murdered by the National Socialists of Germany and the international socialists of the Soviet Union.

  

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