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Re: Does "a well regulated militia" allow the gov't to regulate firearms?
Reply #90 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 7:23am
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SnarkySack wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:59pm:
No, I don't want to take away that natural right.  But I don't want to be honest and admit that defending it comes at a cost and part of that cost is accidental deaths by firearms.
More lives could be saved by "regulating" or banning bicycles.
That's also a better idea because it would leave free law abiding people armed.

Living is dangerous. Freedom is the best solution.

OSHA didn't/doesn't  make our workplaces safer. Workplace safety was increasing before OSHA (and OSHA as you know imposes huge costs on everybody).
Modern factories are safe because accidents reduce productivity, and it isn't easy any longer (for the most part) to just put another 'worker' in place. Specialized skills and special training are often required for every worker in a modern workplace. It pays to keep them safe.
  
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Re: Does "a well regulated militia" allow the gov't to regulate firearms?
Reply #91 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:19pm
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Billie wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 7:23am:
More lives could be saved by "regulating" or banning bicycles.
That's also a better idea because it would leave free law abiding people armed.

Living is dangerous.


Libertarians could enact a ban on both bicycles and guns but nobody would notice.

At least until 2020 when libertarians will elect a libertarian president and a libertarian congress.

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Reply #92 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:43pm
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Don_G wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:19pm:
Libertarians could enact a ban on both bicycles and guns but nobody would notice.
Libertarians strongly oppose banning guns or bicycles. We just want to ban unlimited government and bureaucrats who make laws.
  
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Reply #93 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:57pm
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Billie wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Libertarians strongly oppose banning guns or bicycles. We just want to ban unlimited government and bureaucrats who make laws.


But you said you were going to ban bicycles?
  
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Reply #94 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 4:34pm
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Don_G wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:57pm:
But you said you were going to ban bicycles?
No. Go back and read again on your own.


  
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Reply #95 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 4:49pm
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Don_G wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:19pm:
Libertarians should enact a ban on both bicycles and guns but nobody would notice.


You lie but I sill crave it sweet cheeks.

  
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Reply #96 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:18pm
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Don_G wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 4:49pm:
You lie but I sill crave it sweet cheeks.

That you are aware that you are lying is a good first step, but meaningless if you don't stop lying.

Edit: quoting yourself in reply is... What? Loony?
  
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Reply #97 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 7:46pm
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Don_G wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 4:49pm:
You lie but I sill crave it sweet cheeks.

The forum isn't the same when you fill in for the lizard.
  
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Re: Does "a well regulated militia" allow the gov't to regulate firearms?
Reply #98 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 10:28pm
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Billie wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:18pm:
That you are aware that you are lying is a good first step, but meaningless if you don't stop lying.

Edit: quoting yourself in reply is... What? Loony?


I actually like that idea . . .


  

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Re: Does "a well regulated militia" allow the gov't to regulate firearms?
Reply #99 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 11:50pm
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Don_G wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
It applies to gun laws or lack of gun laws too.


You realize there are at least 271 federal gun laws on the books, and that it is impossible to conjure up, even for experts, an estimate as to how many exist on the state level?

When we hear about these shootings, for example in the recent Texas church shooting late last year and the 2015 shooting in Charleston, the government did not do their part in conducting proper required background checks or prohibiting specific individuals from owning a firearm. Roof did not have a background check done on him, and the individual who perpetrated the 2017 Texas shooting had a dishonorable discharge from the U.S. military, making it illegal for him to possess a firearm.
  
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