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Jan 9th, 2018 at 3:23am
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Re: Just Say No to Jeff Sessions
Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:35am
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Re: Just Say No to Jeff Sessions
Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:54am
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Tom Palven wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 3:23am:


I'm guessing Trump picked Sessions because he's trying to have a balanced cabinet by including a law-and-order southerner.  So we get this old school approach to fighting the "gateway drug." 

Meanwhile, by recusing himself from the Russia influence investigation, he's allowing Obama holdovers to attack the sitting president based on fake dossiers paid for by the Clinton legal team while ignoring the very real payoffs to the Clintons by the Russians.


  

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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:04am
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Jeff wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:35am:


"The rule of law" argument impresses conservatives, but it did not impress Rosa Parks, nor does it impress individualists.
  
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Re: Just Say No to Jeff Sessions
Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:26am
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Tom Palven wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:04am:
"The rule of law" argument impresses conservatives, but it did not impress Rosa Parks, nor does it impress individualists.
I see you only read the headline.

This was further down-

"Members of the executive branch have their own obligation to interpret the Constitution, and if a federal law is unconstitutional in part then the executive branch, no less than the courts, should say so. It is the Constitution, not the Court, that is the ultimate rule of law in our system.

So to be most consistent with the rule of law, what Attorney General Sessions should have done would have been to revise the Obama administration's enforcement guidance so that it was based on the Constitution -- on the limits of federal power to reach wholly in-state activity -- rather than on sheer policy discretion."
  
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Re: Just Say No to Jeff Sessions
Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 12:00pm
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SnarkySack wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:54am:
I'm guessing Trump picked Sessions because he's trying to have a balanced cabinet by including a law-and-order southerner.  So we get this old school approach to fighting the "gateway drug." 

Meanwhile, by recusing himself from the Russia influence investigation, he's allowing Obama holdovers to attack the sitting president based on fake dossiers paid for by the Clinton legal team while ignoring the very real payoffs to the Clintons by the Russians.




Do you have a source for this collusion story on the Clintons/Russia? Til now I've always taken it as just turn about by Trump.
  
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Re: Just Say No to Jeff Sessions
Reply #6 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 12:05pm
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Jeff wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:26am:
I see you only read the headline.

This was further down-

"Members of the executive branch have their own obligation to interpret the Constitution, and if a federal law is unconstitutional in part then the executive branch, no less than the courts, should say so. It is the Constitution, not the Court, that is the ultimate rule of law in our system.

So to be most consistent with the rule of law, what Attorney General Sessions should have done would have been to revise the Obama administration's enforcement guidance so that it was based on the Constitution -- on the limits of federal power to reach wholly in-state activity -- rather than on sheer policy discretion."


Will Baude wrote "The Supreme Court dismissed the role of states in a footnote in Gonzales v. Raich, but it was wrong to do so."

Then in the next paragraph he says that it is the Constitution, not the Supreme Court, that decides the law of the land, which is obviously baloney.
  
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Re: Just Say No to Jeff Sessions
Reply #7 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 12:15pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 12:05pm:
Will Baude wrote "The Supreme Court dismissed the role of states in a footnote in Gonzales v. Raich, but it was wrong to do so."

Then in the next paragraph he says that it is the Constitution, not the Supreme Court, that decides the law of the land, which is obviously baloney.


Interesting concept! If the SCOTUS doesn't decide law in favour of the ruling party then the Constitution could be relied upon and the interpretation could always be favourable to the ruling party.
  
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Re: Just Say No to Jeff Sessions
Reply #8 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 2:15pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
Interesting concept! If the SCOTUS doesn't decide law in favour of the ruling party then the Constitution could be relied upon and the interpretation could always be favourable to the ruling party.


The Constitution has been totally trashed by laws and excutive orders the Supreme Court has upheld.

The Bill of Rights, like the Wicked Witch of the West, isn't merely nearly dead, but clearly most sincerely dead.

The imprisonment of Socialist Presidential candidate Eugene Debs for speaking out against US involvement in WW I was clearly a violation of the First Amendment, but perhaps the most egregious violation of the Bill of Rights was the droning of US citizen and Islamic lecturer Anwar al-Awlaki for speaking out against US involvement in Yemen, and the droning of his 16-year old US citizen son two weeks later.

Those actions by the CIA violated most of the rights listed in the Bill of Rights.
  
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Re: Just Say No to Jeff Sessions
Reply #9 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 2:28pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 12:05pm:
Will Baude wrote "The Supreme Court dismissed the role of states in a footnote in Gonzales v. Raich, but it was wrong to do so."

Then in the next paragraph he says that it is the Constitution, not the Supreme Court, that decides the law of the land, which is obviously baloney.
No, it's true. The Supreme Court is constrained to deciding cases under the written law, the Constitution, which in this case does not give the Congress any power to 'regulate' intrastate commerce.
  
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