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Reply #40 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:32pm
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tomline wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
I am a Libertarian. 

At my sites, it's a rule to be nice to other members.


That's a policy that some of us would like to see upheld here. It's not and it's an easy way to make sure nobody is reprimanded, which would lead to escalating punishment that leads to banning.

It's not compatible with decency but it does uphold a libertarian principle in some ways. I think that's what the forum owner intends. Try asking him if you're interested in sticking around.
  
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Reply #41 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 6:08pm
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Don_G wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
That's a policy that some of us would like to see upheld here.
Dear Donat, it is your hateful ideas about "socially responsible government" that I detest. They are ideas that bubble up out of the slime of antiquity.

The fact that you advocate for them makes me certain you are not a nice person.

Forum rules don't require me to tell everyone on the forum that they are nice.
  
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Reply #42 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:39pm
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tomline wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
I am a Libertarian. 

At my sites, it's a rule to be nice to other members.


Here's an interesting site!  Jeff, this is for you too. 

https://www.scribendi.com/advice/capitalization.en.html

  

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Reply #43 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:39pm
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Don_G wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
That's a policy that some of us would like to see upheld here. It's not and it's an easy way to make sure nobody is reprimanded, which would lead to escalating punishment that leads to banning.

It's not compatible with decency but it does uphold a libertarian principle in some ways. I think that's what the forum owner intends. Try asking him if you're interested in sticking around.


Dude, you're a dick to everyone.  Do you ever read your own posts?
  

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Reply #44 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:42pm
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tomline wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
At my sites, it's a rule to be nice to other members.


Gotcha, all three of you?
  

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Reply #45 - Feb 6th, 2018 at 8:16pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
Gotcha, all three of you?


All three of who?
  
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Reply #46 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 5:42am
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The dangerous results of a regulatory state and government controlled money were well understood by the Founders-

Federalist No. 62: Madison
           "Another effect of public instability is the unreasonable advantage it gives to the sagacious, the enterprising, and the moneyed few over the industrious and uninformed mass of the people. Every new regulation concerning commerce or revenue, or in any manner affecting the value of the different species of property, presents a new harvest to those who watch the change, and can trace the consequences; a harvest, reared not by themselves, but by the toils and cares of the great body of their fellow-citizens. This is a state of things in which it may be said with some truth that laws are made for the few, not for the many.

     What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not but that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed? What farmer or manufacturer will lay himself out for the encouragement given to any particular cultivation or establishment, where he can have no assurance that his preparatory labors and advances will not render him a victim to an inconstant government?

           No government, any more than an individual, will long be respected without being truly respectable;..."
  
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Reply #47 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 1:14pm
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Jeff wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 5:42am:
The dangerous results of a regulatory state and government controlled money were well understood by the Founders-


You're being snookered by government Jeff and you're probably smart enough to understand how if I tell you.

The regulatory state is already active and fully operational. It's regulated by big business and their method is corruption that is made possible by lobbying of politicians.

The scam that's being played on Americans is that big business is promoting the notion that regulation of the state is a bad thing, only because regulation for the common people would interfere with their already active regulation.

If you can come to accept a bit of that concept, it answers all the questions and all the reasons for all the ills of your society.

It's not arguable to say that Americans aren't suffering. We know you're getting the short end of the stick as compared to the happiest countries in the world. And in fact, your move toward being libertarians is a protest directly aimed at the big major parties.

You're a bright boy, give it some thought. It works!
  
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Reply #48 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 4:03pm
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Don_G wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
You're being snookered by government Jeff and you're probably smart enough to understand how if I tell you.

The regulatory state is already active and fully operational. It's regulated by big business and their method is corruption that is made possible by lobbying of politicians.

The scam that's being played on Americans is that big business is promoting the notion that regulation of the state is a bad thing, only because regulation for the common people would interfere with their already active regulation.

If you can come to accept a bit of that concept, it answers all the questions and all the reasons for all the ills of your society.

It's not arguable to say that Americans aren't suffering. We know you're getting the short end of the stick as compared to the happiest countries in the world. And in fact, your move toward being libertarians is a protest directly aimed at the big major parties.

You're a bright boy, give it some thought. It works!
Right, the government lies all the time just with their big lie that "regulation is both necessary and good".

But all of the various bureaucracies and departments and agencies of them are filled with constant little lies. People who tell the truth are fired, and if they become whistle blowers they will be punished.

Anyone paying the least bit of attention can see corruption and cronyism all through our governments, and the cronies and government big shot influence peddlers are all lying to each other, especially the crony bankers, but I think they are lying to themselves about most everything.
  
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Reply #49 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 5:54pm
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Capitalism without compassion is greed.
  
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