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Reply #50 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:10pm
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tomline wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Capitalism without compassion is greed.
People without compassion can get along fine by just respecting the rights of others. I know that compassion is not necessary for success, but I think it often helps.

In my experience, cronies of the government are usually the least compassionate "capitalists", and small business owners are likely to be the most.

Edit: I'm trying to think...

Socialism without accountability is tyranny.

I think mine makes more sense than yours.
  
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Reply #51 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:26pm
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tomline wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Capitalism without compassion is greed.


Expecting to use the property of others for less than they charge is greed.

Fortunately the market fixes companies that are greedy.  They alter course or fail.

Greedy citizens like you run to the government to use force to acquire the property of others
  

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Reply #52 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:46pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Expecting to use the property of others for less than they charge is greed.

Fortunately the market fixes companies that are greedy.  They alter course or fail.

Greedy citizens like you run to the government to use force to acquire the property of others
So you're convinced Tom is on welfare or disability? Or you think he's just another "progressive" infiltrator? Probably both?
  
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Reply #53 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:50pm
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tomline wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Capitalism without compassion is greed.


Capitalism without greed or capitalism that limits greed is 'socially responsible capitalism'. Does the term scare you?
  
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Reply #54 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:55pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Expecting to use the property of others for less than they charge is greed.


Wrong pig. Capitalism legitimately expect people to negotiate a lower price for other people's property. fk, you can't even get that right.

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Fortunately the market fixes companies that are greedy.  They alter course or fail.


Sometimes but far from always. A good example is the petroleum industry that fixes prices at the pump. Wrong again pig.

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Greedy citizens like you run to the government to use force to acquire the property of others


Which rebuts your first two statements. None of the three are correct, they're just extremist and biased opinions of an angry pig.
  
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Reply #55 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 7:24pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Capitalism legitimately expect people to negotiate a lower price for other people's property.



A market of any sort can't "expect" things of people.

If people are allowed to trade freely, they try to negotiate a price agreeable to both of them.

Sometimes people will agree to lower their price, sometimes they just tell you their low price and you can accept it or not.
  
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Reply #56 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 7:27pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Sometimes but far from always. A good example is the petroleum industry that fixes prices at the pump. Wrong again pig.

It's not a good example because it's highly regulated by lots of different governments and taxed like crazy. Even so, there is a fair amount of competition.

Try to think of some almost free market. That will be a better example.

No matter, greedy people and greedy companies can be very successful. People/companies that offer good products at prices people will pay can get very very rich. Greed has nothing to do with it.


  
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Reply #57 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 1:02am
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kaz wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Expecting to use the property of others for less than they charge is greed.

Fortunately the market fixes companies that are greedy.  They alter course or fail.

Greedy citizens like you run to the government to use force to acquire the property of others


Are you saying charging too much for something isn't greed?
  
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Reply #58 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 1:04am
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Capitalism without greed or capitalism that limits greed is 'socially responsible capitalism'. Does the term scare you?


Did I say it scares me?
  
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Reply #59 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 1:12am
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Jeff wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
So you're convinced Tom is on welfare or disability? Or you think he's just another "progressive" infiltrator? Probably both?


I am on SSI, Food Stamps and Housing Assistance.  And I qualify for a lot more.  And I hate it.  I'd rather the church help me.  The first time I needed surgery, I went to the church for help.  The minister told me I should go to the Government because he said, "That's what they're there for."  So I went on Medical Assistance for just that surgery.  Then my plan was to go back to work, but I needed more surgery. 

I guess some of you would rather I be dead.
  
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