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Reply #60 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:04am
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tomline wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 1:12am:
I am on SSI, Food Stamps and Housing Assistance.  And I qualify for a lot more.  And I hate it.  I'd rather the church help me.  The first time I needed surgery, I went to the church for help.  The minister told me I should go to the Government because he said, "That's what they're there for."  So I went on Medical Assistance for just that surgery.  Then my plan was to go back to work, but I needed more surgery. 

I guess some of you would rather I be dead.


Without Medicaid pushing up the price of health care, you could have probably afforded your surgeries.
  

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Reply #61 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 9:16am
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tomline wrote Today at 1:12am:
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I am on SSI, Food Stamps and Housing Assistance.  And I qualify for a lot more.  And I hate it.  I'd rather the church help me.  The first time I needed surgery, I went to the church for help.  The minister told me I should go to the Government because he said, "That's what they're there for."  So I went on Medical Assistance for just that surgery.  Then my plan was to go back to work, but I needed more surgery.

I guess some of you would rather I be dead.


The Opposition wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:04am:
Without Medicaid pushing up the price of health care, you could have probably afforded your surgeries.


Correct.  Also without government taking more than half of the average person's income in taxes at all levels, people would have more money to donate to charitable causes such as helping the poor with medical expenses.

Tomline, your use the false dilemma fallacy that if we don't support government stealing large fractions of our earnings and redistributing it, we want people to die doesn't make your claim of being a libertarian very credible.

  

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Reply #62 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:09am
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The Opposition wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:04am:
Without Medicaid pushing up the price of health care, you could have probably afforded your surgeries.


With what?
  
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Reply #63 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:19pm
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tomline wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 1:12am:
I am on SSI, Food Stamps and Housing Assistance.  And I qualify for a lot more.  And I hate it.  I'd rather the church help me.  The first time I needed surgery, I went to the church for help.  The minister told me I should go to the Government because he said, "That's what they're there for."  So I went on Medical Assistance for just that surgery.  Then my plan was to go back to work, but I needed more surgery. 

I guess some of you would rather I be dead.


I hear you and I'm Canadian so maybe we should talk about universal health care? That can be on the growing list. Either first.

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Reply #64 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:37pm
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The Opposition wrote Today at 3:04am:
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Without Medicaid pushing up the price of health care, you could have probably afforded your surgeries.


tomline wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:09am:
With what?


With the money that you and your loved ones save by not having to pay for every one else's health care, you could afford to pay for your own.  Or use the very affordable insurance that would result from an actual free market.


  

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Reply #65 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:50pm
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SnarkySack wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:37pm:
The Opposition wrote Today at 3:04am:


With the money that you and your loved ones save by not having to pay for every one else's health care, you could afford to pay for your own.  Or use the very affordable insurance that would result from an actual free market.




How about telling tomline about how Canadians have to go to the US for health care?

If he buys it or not will tell me if it's worth wasting my time with him.
  
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Reply #66 - Mar 1st, 2018 at 8:10am
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Reply #67 - Mar 1st, 2018 at 10:08am
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The Opposition wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:04am:
Without Medicaid pushing up the price of health care, you could have probably afforded your surgeries.


Bingo
  

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Reply #68 - Mar 1st, 2018 at 10:09am
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tomline wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:09am:
With what?


Your own money or with a free market insurance policy that you purchased on your own
  

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Reply #69 - Mar 1st, 2018 at 1:38pm
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tomline wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 1:12am:
I am on SSI, Food Stamps and Housing Assistance.  And I qualify for a lot more.  And I hate it.  I'd rather the church help me.  The first time I needed surgery, I went to the church for help.  The minister told me I should go to the Government because he said, "That's what they're there for."  So I went on Medical Assistance for just that surgery.  Then my plan was to go back to work, but I needed more surgery. 

I guess some of you would rather I be dead.


I would accept your claims are genuine.

But the obvious position libertarians are going to take is they will call you a lazy malingerer. That's simply the philosophy, compard to mine.

But I accept your claims with some caution, even though I will give you the benefit of the doubt. The ultimate decision will be made by government over a period of time and if you're not genuine then hopefully your ass will be booted off the dole.

Society can't afford to have it any other way. It only works my way. I can claim it as my way, even though it's my government's way.
  
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