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Feb 10th, 2018 at 11:02pm
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Individual mass murderers pale in comparison to government's ability to bring about human suffering.

Jack the Ripper killed perhaps a dozen.  The Manson Family killed less than ten.  Son of Sam killed six.

Government has killed millions.  There needs to be a stronger term than "mass murderer" for government mass killers.

  

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Re: Only Government Can Bring You a Holocoust
Reply #1 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 7:11am
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SnarkySack wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 11:02pm:
Individual mass murderers pale in comparison to government's ability to bring about human suffering.

Jack the Ripper killed perhaps a dozen.  The Manson Family killed less than ten.  Son of Sam killed six.

Government has killed millions.  There needs to be a stronger term than "mass murderer" for government mass killers.


any trib opf people can go to war with a nother trib the most monderen exsample of it i can think of is that war in Bosnia
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:59pm
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SnarkySack wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 11:02pm:
Individual mass murderers pale in comparison to government's ability to bring about human suffering.

Jack the Ripper killed perhaps a dozen.  The Manson Family killed less than ten.  Son of Sam killed six.

Government has killed millions.  There needs to be a stronger term than "mass murderer" for government mass killers.


Is this one motivated by criticism of your own government? As opposed to being antiwar, which you've hardly ever professed to be, this would be suspected as being against US government.

Unlike therm, it reminds me of over 37 US wars of aggression since WW2 alone.

And obvious attempts to take Syria back into more war because of the Russian success.
  
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Re: Only Government Can Bring You a Holocoust
Reply #3 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:17pm
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Don_G wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:59pm:
Is this one motivated by criticism of your own government? As opposed to being antiwar, which you've hardly ever professed to be, this would be suspected as being against US government.

Unlike therm, it reminds me of over 37 US wars of aggression since WW2 alone.

And obvious attempts to take Syria back into more war because of the Russian success.


I'm not anti-war, I'm anti-aggression.  I make no exception for your country's aggression toward Syria.
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:22pm
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SnarkySack wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
I'm not anti-war, I'm anti-aggression.  I make no exception for your country's aggression toward Syria.


I'm just using the opportunity while the regular spammers are away to get some rational ideas into your head. I know it won't last long.

And that kind of answer from you shows you fear it.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:40pm
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Don_G wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
I'm just using the opportunity while the regular spammers are away to get some rational ideas into your head. I know it won't last long.

And that kind of answer from you shows you fear it.


What makes you say that?

  

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SnarkySack wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
What makes you say that?



Only serious conversations right now until the assholes are back.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 2:06pm
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Don_G wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 2:02pm:
Only serious conversations right now until the assholes are back.


Ok, well suffice to say I welcome that, not fear it.

  

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Reply #8 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 2:27pm
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SnarkySack wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 2:06pm:
Ok, well suffice to say I welcome that, not fear it.



That's good and I suspected you did. You better make it quick if you want to get anywhere.

Or make an attempt after the assholes are back if you choose?

This forum is a fukking mess and nearly a complete waste of time in my opinion. I'm guesing you're feeling somewhat the same.

I'm trying to find some worthiness in you because I think there's something there. But frankly, I'm not going to be disappointed if you fail.

We've both tried Jeff but he can't be held to anything serious. He's likely capable but he's made his choice.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 6:07pm
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I was thinking about this last night, and slavery comes to mind as a counterpoint. While it is true that slavery as an institution was at least not acted against by government, the act of capturing, transporting, and selling slaves was a hugely capitalist endeavour that sustained the trade triangle in the 1800s.

Slaves would be bought in Africa, then the merchant ships would sail to America.

They loaded off the slaves in America, and stocked up on raw goods like sugar, coffee, tobacco, and rice.

The ships would then sail to Europe to purchase fine finished goods such as cloth. Then they would then sail again, and trade these fine goods for slaves again in Africa.
  

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Not taking Jeff seriously until he admits this is animal abuse (which he says should be illegal): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE-IT7_CaE4
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