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Should South Africa Take Back Their Land?
Feb 28th, 2018 at 12:46pm
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https://www.rt.com/business/420021-africa-white-owned-land/

A good issue for libertarians because there are two distinct ways of looking at this. Remembering that the land was taken from the people due to apartheid. This is also a direct parallel issue to the Israelis apartheid land grab. In my opinion and I'm sure in the opinions of others too.

What do libertarians think?
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 3:06pm
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If you people can't come around to facing reality and promoting real libertarianism, then let this stick in your craws for a while.

If there's no way of getting a message of responsibility across then have it crammed up your asses for a while.

I'm feeling pretty cocky today already. The deadly ominous silence is deafening.
  
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Re: Should South Africa Take Back Their Land?
Reply #2 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 3:16pm
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I don't see what's wrong with confiscating white-owned land.

The article explains it's not even theirs. It was taken under apartheid and the government is dragging its feet in restoring it to its rightful owners.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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The Opposition wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 3:16pm:
I don't see what's wrong with confiscating white-owned land.

The article explains it's not even theirs. It was taken under apartheid and the government is dragging its feet in restoring it to its rightful owners.


That's the way I feel about it Oppo. But you with your big brain should be able to understand why I posted it on this forum. I'll consider that you do and so I don't have to spill the beans for those who don't understand. They will speak up soon enough I suspect. Til then it's our little secret.

Progably too simple for most of them to get, but you (I) have to start somewhere with their re-education!
  
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Re: Should South Africa Take Back Their Land?
Reply #4 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 3:47pm
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That's the way I feel about it Oppo. But you with your big brain should be able to understand why I posted it on this forum. I'll consider that you do and so I don't have to spill the beans for those who don't understand. They will speak up soon enough I suspect. Til then it's our little secret.

Probably too simple for most of them to get, but you (I) have to start somewhere with their re-education!


They're not going to be re-educated about anything because they base their beliefs on the same thing you do. It's in your post. I highlighted it, but only slightly.

You get what you deserve when they fling shit rather than considering the facts, because you also fling shit rather than considering the facts.

You're not even talking to each other. You're talking at each other.

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At 18 months he may not mind other children playing with his toys, but by two he snatches them back. He likes to be with other children, but doesn't really play with them unless they are older. Your child cannot put himself in someone else's shoes. As hitting someone else doesn't hurt him, he assumes it doesn't hurt them either. And if he bangs into a chair, he'll say the chair hurt him.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Should South Africa Take Back Their Land?
Reply #5 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 4:11pm
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A good issue for libertarians because there are two distinct ways of looking at this. Remembering that the land was taken from the people due to apartheid. This is also a direct parallel issue to the Israelis apartheid land grab. In my opinion and I'm sure in the opinions of others too.

What do libertarians think?


Taking land that did not belong to the UK and giving it to Jews in and out of the area was indeed theft.  But since theft is almost universally accepted on this board as long as government does it, what's your point?

Once we accept that stealing is OK if it is practical, then the practical thing would be to steal even more land and give it to the Jews.  Seeing what a success they made of that tiny strip of desert, I have to wonder how great they would have done if they had been given all of the area known as "Jordon."  I'd offer them Lebanon also if not for how beautiful Lebanese women are.

That's Lebanese, Don.  Don't go off on an LGBT rant . . .

  

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Reply #6 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 4:20pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 4:11pm:
Taking land that did not belong to the UK and giving it to Jews in and out of the area was indeed theft.  But since theft is almost universally accepted on this board as long as government does it, what's your point?

Once we accept that stealing is OK if it is practical, then the practical thing would be to steal even more land and give it to the Jews.  Seeing what a success they made of that tiny strip of desert, I have to wonder how great they would have done if they had been given all of the area known as "Jordon."  I'd offer them Lebanon also if not for how beautiful Lebanese women are.

That's Lebanese, Don.  Don't go off on an LGBT rant . . .



I don't accept theft by the government burnsred so you're right that it's 'almost' universally accepted.

But in my case, it's probably a misinterpretation of the others on my part as to what constitutes government theft.

As to your extremist views on all the other, commenting on it just drives you to more extremism. I maybe should because it's always interesting to test your limits!

And if I belabour the point with you, I risk you understanding what I'm doing and then I would lose control over you.

I regret saying that but I know you'll forget by tomorrow.
  
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Re: Should South Africa Take Back Their Land?
Reply #7 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm
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The Opposition wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 3:16pm:
I don't see what's wrong with confiscating white-owned land.

Racist.
  
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Re: Should South Africa Take Back Their Land?
Reply #8 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 6:02pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 4:11pm:
Taking land that did not belong to the UK and giving it to Jews in and out of the area was indeed theft.
Theft by UN decree?

Most people (other than Nazis in hiding) saw it as Justice and an opportunity.

All the Arabs in the area saw it as an opportunity to concentrate the Jews in one place and finish what Hitler started.

The Arabs figured wrong, and those Arabs around Israel steadfastly refuse to civilize themselves.
  
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Re: Should South Africa Take Back Their Land?
Reply #9 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 6:07pm
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The Opposition wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 3:16pm:
The article explains it's not even theirs. It was taken under apartheid and the government is dragging its feet in restoring it to its rightful owners.
Right. They have a "socially responsible government" that is convinced that ownership of property is evil, so the government wants to keep all the property, but they have learned that when they do, people stop producing wealth for them to loot.

It's a dilemma for them. That's why they are dragging their feet.
  
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