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Mar 3rd, 2018 at 11:26am
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Trump proposed an age limit for purchasing long guns (rifles). 

That would infringe on our right to keep and bear arms.  The Constitution expressly prohibits Congress from passing any [Federal] Law which infringes on this right.

Individual States (*) can probably get away with it - some already do.   But not the Fed gov't

Someone, please send the word to the President.      Smiley



*  California, New Jersey, Massachusetts, N.Y., District of Columbia
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 11:55am
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Totally and completely read all of the following: United States Constitution (including Preamble), Amendment II, Amendment XIV, and Amendment XIX, and Amendment XXVI.

Just as States are prohibited from violating United States Constitution Amendment I, States are prohibited from violating United States Constitution Amendments II, XIV, XIX, and XXVI.  Any person, that is registered to vote and is at least 18 years of age, may keep and bear Arms according to Amendment II.

Also, most State Legislatures of States of the United States and most State Governors are currently of Republican Party (I think), and any State(s), that is or are violating said Amendment(s), is or are committing rebellion against the United States Federal Government, and therefore that or those State(s) must surrender immediately and unconditionally and permanently to the United States Federal Government or leave the United States Union.


  
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Reply #2 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:09pm
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SkyChief wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 11:26am:
Trump proposed an age limit for purchasing long guns (rifles). 

That would infringe on our right to keep and bear arms.  The Constitution expressly prohibits Congress from passing any [Federal] Law which infringes on this right.

Individual States (*) can probably get away with it - some already do.   But not the Fed gov't

Someone, please send the word to the President.      Smiley



*  California, New Jersey, Massachusetts, N.Y., District of Columbia


How many times do you have to be told dumbass, that Trump doesn't intend any changes?


  
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Reply #3 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:26pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 11:55am:
Any person, that is registered to vote and is at least 18 years of age, may keep and bear Arms according to Amendment II.

Here's the 2nd Amendment:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Where does it say "at least 18 years of age" and "registered to vote"?
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:29pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 11:55am:
Any person, that is registered to vote and is at least 18 years of age, may keep and bear Arms according to Amendment II.


I suppose, by your reading, that also applies to the First Amendment?

BTW, I grew up in a state that issued hunting licenses to 12 year olds with the assumption that they would be hunting with guns.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:33pm
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SkyChief wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:26pm:
Here's the 2nd Amendment:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Where does it say "at least 18 years of age" and "registered to vote"? 


If your interpretation of the 2A is correct then it needs to be changed to reflect the present day. But that's just unnecessary bother.

It's much easier to just understand that your interpretation isn't right. There are sensible limitations to everything Chief.

And that's why Alayne has been able to simplify the issue and get it very close to being a correct interpretation.

10 and 12 year old little boys running around Alabama with machine guns may be desirable, but nobody should just abandon hope completely for even stupid hillbillies. It's not their children's fault.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:38pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:33pm:
It's much easier to just understand that your interpretation isn't right.

Doubling down on stupid again.  LOL! 

That Dumbest Things Ever Said Or Written list grows each day, thanks to you.   Smiley    Smiley
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:41pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:33pm:
It's much easier to just understand that your interpretation isn't right. There are sensible limitations to everything Chief.


"Reasonable" limitations is what the "progressive" S. Ct. Justices said...

It's "reasonable" to "progressives" to disarm everyone and ban any speech that doesn't follow the Party line and have the government control the entire economy.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:43pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:33pm:
10 and 12 year old little boys running around Alabama with machine guns may be desirable, but nobody should just abandon hope completely for even stupid hillbillies. It's not their children's fault.
I don't know if they've changed their law, but at the time, it wasn't even legal to use semi-automatic guns for hunting, and slide action rifles and shotguns had to be plugged so they wouldn't hold more than three cartridges.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:52pm
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Jeff wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:43pm:
I don't know if they've changed their law, but at the time, it wasn't even legal to use semi-automatic guns for hunting, and slide action rifles and shotguns had to be plugged so they wouldn't hold more than three cartridges.


What you call semi-automatic guns have always been legal, at least as long as they have existed. At least in Canada and likely the US too. Plugging a shotgun has nothing to do with the topic. You should know that!

I actually remember what I think was about the first semi-automatic shotgun on the market. It was strictly recoil operated the same as the .22's Then came Remington's 1100 I believe, which wasn't strictly recoil.

This isn't about guns in any case. It's about interpretation of the 2A. It's more likely it will be reinterpreted to reflect reality than it will be changed to reflect reality. No hurry!
  
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