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Reply #300 - Sep 11th, 2018 at 7:54am
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The continuing saga of bad ideas and bad consequences. Kalifornia seems to be a leader in this sort of idiocy-

https://reason.com/blog/2018/09/10/californias-attacks-on-the-gig-economy-e?utm_...
  
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Reply #301 - Sep 11th, 2018 at 12:46pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 7:54am:
The continuing saga of bad ideas and bad consequences. Kalifornia seems to be a leader in this sort of idiocy-

https://reason.com/blog/2018/09/10/californias-attacks-on-the-gig-economy-e?utm_...

I'm thinking it shouldn't be difficult to work around this crazy Supreme Court ruling.

It may be something as simple as changing the name of the business.

Say for example the business is a tattoo/body piercing parlor.  It was originally called Bruno's Tattoo.

Bruno hired his artists as "independent contractors" because each artist wanted to be able to charge his/her own rates.  The tattoo artists would pay Bruno each month to operate their own booth in his business.

But under the new Supreme Court ruling, Bruno must make all these people permanent employees of Bruno's Tattoo, and provide benefits to them.   This will force Bruno out of business.

So here's my idea:

Bruno simply changes the name of the business to Bruno's Automotive.  Bruno buys himself a $50 OBD II scan tool, and will plug it to a OBD II port to decode the check engine light if one of the tattoo customer asks!!    Grin    Grin    Grin

But he and the sub-contractors continue to function as a tattoo/body piercing parlor.

clever, eh? Smiley
  
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Re: The Fall Of California - A Paradise Lost
Reply #302 - Sep 11th, 2018 at 6:23pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 12:46pm:
I'm thinking it shouldn't be difficult to work around this crazy Supreme Court ruling.

It may be something as simple as changing the name of the business.

Say for example the business is a tattoo/body piercing parlor.  It was originally called Bruno's Tattoo.

Bruno hired his artists as "independent contractors" because each artist wanted to be able to charge his/her own rates.  The tattoo artists would pay Bruno each month to operate their own booth in his business.

But under the new Supreme Court ruling, Bruno must make all these people permanent employees of Bruno's Tattoo, and provide benefits to them.   This will force Bruno out of business.

So here's my idea:

Bruno simply changes the name of the business to Bruno's Automotive.  Bruno buys himself a $50 OBD II scan tool, and will plug it to a OBD II port to decode the check engine light if one of the tattoo customer asks!!    Grin    Grin    Grin

But he and the sub-contractors continue to function as a tattoo/body piercing parlor.

clever, eh? Smiley
Give it  a try then... Maybe you'll get rich in modern Kalifornia by bucking the regulations of the bureaucracies.

Keep us informed, thanks. Kiss
  
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Reply #303 - Sep 13th, 2018 at 7:44am
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Despite decades of helping the poor with wealth transfers and all sorts of government programs-

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article218270905.html

Kalifornia has the highest poverty rate in the nation.
  
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Reply #304 - Sep 13th, 2018 at 11:18am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 13th, 2018 at 7:44am:
Kalifornia has the highest poverty rate in the nation.

Yes.

Wherever you find socialism, you will find desperate, poverty-stricken people. 

But the guy who steals our recycleables is looking very well and seems to be in good spirits these days...

Yesterday, he smiled and bid me "Good morning, sir!" 
  
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Reply #305 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:05am
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 13th, 2018 at 11:18am:
Yes.

Wherever you find socialism, you will find desperate, poverty-stricken people. 

Like this one?

https://www.infowars.com/socialist-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wears-3500-outfit-fo...
  
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Reply #306 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:06am
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More about how Kalifornia's government for the people really works-

https://reason.com/archives/2018/09/14/lawsuit-says-california-pension-agency-w?...

You aren't allowed to know why your tax money goes where it goes...
  
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Reply #307 - Sep 20th, 2018 at 10:17pm
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Today. California Governor Moonbeam Brown took a break from running our beautiful state into the ground, and took a poke at the president.

Brown said:

"Something's gotta happen to this guy [Trump] because if we don't get rid of him, he's going to undermine America and even the world!"
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Reply #308 - Sep 21st, 2018 at 9:50am
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   There are numerous issues with California that are all directly related to the leftwing government’s policies.  They have been run by progressive type leftists for quite a while now.  The tax rates are stifling, between the highest and some of the highest according to which category, and businesses often choose to move out of the state or never start businesses to begin with; regulation is high.
     Immigration is also an issue.  Here’s the problem, low skill labor flooding a state can have negative effects to the job market; also, some sort of welfare is used by 70 something percent of Mexican immigrants when they come over, which is paid for by the state.  There is simply too much money going out and not enough coming in.  They need to spark economic growth while making painful, unpopular budget cuts that will hurt the poor; poor people are much more likely to vote for the democrats so, I predict, the state will have to be at the point of economic collapse before serious cuts are made.
  

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Reply #309 - Sep 21st, 2018 at 11:17am
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lksalksa123 wrote on Sep 21st, 2018 at 9:50am:
   They [Californians] need to spark economic growth while making painful, unpopular budget cuts that will hurt the poor; poor people are much more likely to vote for the democrats so, I predict, the state will have to be at the point of economic collapse before serious cuts are made.

California is now the 5th largest economy in the world.  Bigger than Canada, France, and UK. 

Our state government is ginormous.  Highly centralized and insanely powerful.

All laws coming out of Sacramento are designed to hurt Californians.

We need to lower taxes - austerity with welfare and handouts, and (as you said) this will mean fewer votes from Democrats.

This was the impetus for splitting up state into 3 smaller states.  A plan which Democrats torpedoed in order to keep it off November's ballot.

They [California lawmakers] want us voters/taxpayers to fear them.  And we do, mostly!  Shocked
  
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