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Re: The Fall Of California - A Paradise Lost
Reply #320 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 12:04am
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:59pm:
http://truthinmedia.com/study-us-states-ranked-by-freedom/

I think I've solved the problem of paradise.

Do not live in one.

I would have guessed that California is the worst state for freedom.   But it's not.    Smiley

I feel a little better - thanks Oppo.

(My deepest condolences for New Yorkers.     Cry)
  
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Reply #321 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 10:56am
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 12:04am:
I would have guessed that California is the worst state for freedom.   But it's not.    Smiley

I feel a little better - thanks Oppo.

(My deepest condolences for New Yorkers.     Cry)


Age of a society is also worse for freedom. Overpopulation is a factor too.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #322 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 12:36pm
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 10:56am:
Age of a society is also worse for freedom. Overpopulation is a factor too.
Like Hong Kong?
  
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Re: The Fall Of California - A Paradise Lost
Reply #323 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 1:04pm
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 10:56am:
Age of a society is also worse for freedom. Overpopulation is a factor too.

Hmmm...

Maybe overpopulation lowers the 'quality of life', but loss of liberty always results form unchecked government expansion.

And we all know what enables government expansion - - - TAXES.

It's no coincidence that states with the least liberty (New York and California) have the highest taxation in the country.

Both of these states have out-of-control legislatures passing idiotic laws -  of course liberty is compromised.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if state lawmakers would come up with some ideas to preserve the blessings of liberty, instead of diminishing them??
  
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Reply #324 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 7:39pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
It's no coincidence that states with the least liberty (New York and California) have the highest taxation in the country.

Both of these states have out-of-control legislatures passing idiotic laws -  of course liberty is compromised.


  
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Re: The Fall Of California - A Paradise Lost
Reply #325 - Dec 12th, 2018 at 5:17pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Both of these states have out-of-control legislatures passing idiotic laws -  of course liberty is compromised.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if state lawmakers would come up with some ideas to preserve the blessings of liberty, instead of diminishing them??
You mean new ideas? That's not likely in my opinion.

Liberty can only be preserved by limiting government under an equally applied rule of law.

That's been known for a long time.
  
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Reply #326 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 7:51am
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This is a good one, Kalifornia regulators want to impose a new tax, but a new rule by federal regulators might make it illegal Cheesy-

https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/13/california-regulators-want-to-tax-texts?utm_m...
  
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Reply #327 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:59am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 7:51am:
This is a good one, Kalifornia regulators want to impose a new tax, but a new rule by federal regulators might make it illegal Cheesy-

https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/13/california-regulators-want-to-tax-texts?utm_m...

California regulators are the most feared governing body. They see Federal laws as a nuisance which can be easily sidestepped.

California has the strictest, most restrictive gun laws in the country.  .50 cal BMG, AR 15, AK 47, mini 14, 9mm UZI,, etc..

ALL OF THEM BANNED.

Sale of all "assault rifles" is BANNED., i.e., any weapon with the following characteristics:

• semi-auto
• centerfire 
• detachable magazine

And also has either of the following:

• pistol grip
• thumb-hole stock

Crazy, huh?   Callifornia lawmakers laugh at Federal Laws!

  (help us, please)
  
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Re: The Fall Of California - A Paradise Lost
Reply #328 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 4:35pm
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:59am:
California regulators are the most feared governing body. They see Federal laws as a nuisance which can be easily sidestepped.

Chief, this is a case where Kalifornia regulators are going up against federal regulators, rule to rule, a Showdown at High Noon!. Smiley

The Constitution is not clear at all as to which regulatory body, State or Federal, has Supremacy when it comes to making rules given the force of law. Cheesy
  
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Re: The Fall Of California - A Paradise Lost
Reply #329 - Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:25am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
Chief, this is a case where Kalifornia regulators are going up against federal regulators, rule to rule, a Showdown at High Noon!. Smiley

The Constitution is not clear at all as to which regulatory body, State or Federal, has Supremacy when it comes to making rules given the force of law. Cheesy


Right.  It only hints at the answer here:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

Oh, wait . . .

That's not a hint, that very clear guidance.

Roll Eyes
  

Snarky no more!
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