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Rod Rosenstein: "Lead" not Probable Cause is Good Enough to Search
Apr 8th, 2018 at 8:58am
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He insisted to Chairman Goodlatte that the FBI should have the ability to not only see who you are emailing, but also to then read any emails that they want to "follow up on," with no probable cause to support a warrant.  I'm sure no one on this forum thinks emails are private if someone in government wants to read them. 

But it's an even further step for them to openly state that they believe they have the right to search any of our papers and effects that they are curious about.

The only solution is to reduce government to its truly essential function, fund it at minimum levels and then to be skeptical and watchful of that skeleton government.



  

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Re: Rod Rosenstein: "Lead" not Probable Cause is Good Enough to Search
Reply #1 - Apr 8th, 2018 at 10:14am
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Snarky Sack wrote on Apr 8th, 2018 at 8:58am:
He insisted to Chairman Goodlatte that the FBI should have the ability to not only see who you are emailing, but also to then read any emails that they want to "follow up on," with no probable cause to support a warrant.  I'm sure no one on this forum thinks emails are private if someone in government wants to read them. 

But it's an even further step for them to openly state that they believe they have the right to search any of our papers and effects that they are curious about.

The only solution is to reduce government to its truly essential function, fund it at minimum levels and then to be skeptical and watchful of that skeleton government.




Link please and probable causes of is the foundation of our legal system without it we might as well be living in a dictatorship
  
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Re: Rod Rosenstein: "Lead" not Probable Cause is Good Enough to Search
Reply #2 - Apr 8th, 2018 at 10:19am
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Snarky Sack wrote on Apr 8th, 2018 at 8:58am:
He insisted to Chairman Goodlatte that the FBI should have the ability to not only see who you are emailing, but also to then read any emails that they want to "follow up on," with no probable cause to support a warrant.  I'm sure no one on this forum thinks emails are private if someone in government wants to read them. 

But it's an even further step for them to openly state that they believe they have the right to search any of our papers and effects that they are curious about.

The only solution is to reduce government to its truly essential function, fund it at minimum levels and then to be skeptical and watchful of that skeleton government.




Also who the hell is good latte
  
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Re: Rod Rosenstein: "Lead" not Probable Cause is Good Enough to Search
Reply #3 - Apr 8th, 2018 at 11:03am
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Snarky Sack wrote on Apr 8th, 2018 at 8:58am:
He insisted to Chairman Goodlatte that the FBI should have the ability to not only see who you are emailing, but also to then read any emails that they want to "follow up on," with no probable cause to support a warrant.  I'm sure no one on this forum thinks emails are private if someone in government wants to read them. 

But it's an even further step for them to openly state that they believe they have the right to search any of our papers and effects that they are curious about.

The only solution is to reduce government to its truly essential function, fund it at minimum levels and then to be skeptical and watchful of that skeleton government.



Yep, the statists are on the move all right.
My State Representative doesn't think the government should be reading his mail either.
  
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Re: Rod Rosenstein: "Lead" not Probable Cause is Good Enough to Search
Reply #4 - Apr 8th, 2018 at 12:55pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Apr 8th, 2018 at 8:58am:
He insisted to Chairman Goodlatte that the FBI should have the ability to not only see who you are emailing, but also to then read any emails that they want to "follow up on," with no probable cause to support a warrant.  I'm sure no one on this forum thinks emails are private if someone in government wants to read them. 

But it's an even further step for them to openly state that they believe they have the right to search any of our papers and effects that they are curious about.

The only solution is to reduce government to its truly essential function, fund it at minimum levels and then to be skeptical and watchful of that skeleton government.


No, that's not a solution and never will be the solution. And it's not going to ever happen. Period!

There is a solution though. That would be dealing with the root cause for why the FBI needs to look at some emails.

Stubbornness of Americans to not look at the root of the problem just ensures the problem will continue to exist and probably get worse.

The short answer: Stop US terrorism throughout the world in order to stop revenge acts of terrorism. Thereby negating a need for the FBI to 'spy' on the people's emails.

The longer answer begins with the people not caring enough to want to stop it from happening. Except for libertarians who somehoe think the answer is in stopping income taxation?  Embarrassed

Should I also have mentioned that Trump shouldn't have fired Comey so the FBI's investigation into Trump's mischief could be stopped? LOL
  
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Re: Rod Rosenstein: "Lead" not Probable Cause is Good Enough to Search
Reply #5 - Apr 9th, 2018 at 7:53am
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Reply #6 - Apr 9th, 2018 at 2:22pm
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An isolated instance of police abuse of their powers is turned into 'police stripsearching their wives and daughters' by the pseudo-libertarian!

They push a narrative that can't ever be supported by anything more than the narrow 5% at best.

And it's more like 2% while the other 3% turn away and ignore the nonsense out of frustration brought on by the 2 major parties.

Somewhere shining dimly on the horizon is 'socially responsible government' which is going to need a turn toward the left.

It will be the last alternative choice for the people. But all the other alternatives have run out. Libertarian never was obviously.
  
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Re: Rod Rosenstein: "Lead" not Probable Cause is Good Enough to Search
Reply #7 - Apr 9th, 2018 at 2:24pm
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An isolated instance of police abuse of their powers is turned into 'police stripsearching their wives and daughters' by the pseudo-libertarian!

They push a narrative that can't ever be supported by anything more than the narrow 5% at best.

And it's more like 2% while the other 3% turn away and ignore the nonsense out of frustration brought on by the 2 major parties.

Somewhere shining dimly on the horizon is 'socially responsible government' which is going to need a turn toward the left.

It will be the last alternative choice for the people. But all the other alternatives have run out. Libertarian never was obviously. [/quote]


On topic: It really does appear that Mueller, Comey, and Rosenstein were the good guys all along! All three were held in high esteem by the people before the coming of Trump.
  
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Re: Rod Rosenstein: "Lead" not Probable Cause is Good Enough to Search
Reply #8 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 2:06pm
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And so now we know that Rosenstein o.k.'ed the raid on Cohen's three locations.

He was supposed to be Trump's man, according to Trump. Now Trump is running out of friends, if indeed he has any real friends left? This is going to make it hard for the right to make out that it's only the left that is gunning for Trump.

Could we be close to hearing from the Republican side of the US congress? Is it time to start saving their own hides in time for the election coming in November?

Being proactive on what is coming down on Trump will look a lot better for them than standing their ground with Trump.
  
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