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Reply #20 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 6:24pm
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Billie wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
crappity smack Rothbard telling me I'm not a real libertarian unless I think the way he does.

Rothbard had anarchist tendencies which sometimes caused him to be irrational. Rothbard wasn't a libertarian.

So there. Now Murray and I are even.

self ownship is a idea invented by anerkists and the libertions apoted the idea just cuz a anerkist thought of a idea dose not mean it is bad
  
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Reply #21 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:12pm
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thermf5 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
self ownship is a idea invented by anerkists...
No. That's not even close to the truth.

Which anarchist philosophers gave you that idea?
  
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Reply #22 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:57pm
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Billie wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:12pm:
No. That's not even close to the truth.

Which anarchist philosophers gave you that idea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-ownership
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:50am
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thermf5 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:57pm:
Belief in self-ownership is part of anarchist and libertarian beliefs, but it has ancient roots in monotheistic religions (mainly Judaism) and was explained philosophically by theories of natural rights, which theories actually rise above anarchistic law of the jungle ideas.
  
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Reply #24 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 1:43pm
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Billie wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:50am:
Belief in self-ownership is part of anarchist and libertarian beliefs, but it has ancient roots in monotheistic religions (mainly Judaism) and was explained philosophically by theories of natural rights, which theories actually rise above anarchistic law of the jungle ideas.

i grow up jewish ur takeing abought law and  order vs the law of the jungle  not self ownship and where did u get this idea that self ownership has biblicic roots and plz dont qute the zorar or the talmood just the tanoth  or the tora PROFITS and holy right or as chists call it the old testiment
  
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Reply #25 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 4:36pm
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thermf5 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 1:43pm:
where did u get this idea that self ownership has biblicic roots
From reading all sorts of histories.

If you know nothing, Paul Johnson's History of the Jews might be a good place to start.

Or try something more comprehensive (but less accessible) like A History of the Ancient World by Chester G. Starr.

Be warned, a reviewer of the 1st Edition said "It sounds like it was written by a Whig." Smiley
  
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