Libertarian's Forum
Libertarian Forum to discuss politics and free market economics.
Libertarian's ForumLibertarian's ForumFreedom Forum › Government Is "God" To The Left
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 ... 10 11 [12] 13 14  Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) Government Is "God" To The Left (Read 1064 times)
Billie
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 29359
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #110 - May 9th, 2018 at 5:49pm
Print Post  
RubyHypatia wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 3:39pm:
China's prosperity has everything to do with Capitalism and nothing to do with Communism.  They might as well give up the Communism all together and embrace freedom, it would mean even more prosperity.
Sorry, we're talking past each other.
The Communist Party of China is not composed of communists and they have given up on creating a "socialist system". Sure, there will always be True Believers, but they will be willing to control a crony capitalist power like China until they can make it strong enough to control the world after the Revolution.

Probably you are aware of how often "socialists" say, "The only reason it didn't work was because of capitalists, and once we get rid of all of them and institute a "socialist system" over the entire world, then it will work!"
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Don_G
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 9992
Location: British Columbia
Joined: May 8th, 2017
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #111 - May 9th, 2018 at 6:49pm
Print Post  
RubyHypatia wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 3:39pm:
China's prosperity has everything to do with Capitalism and nothing to do with Communism.  They might as well give up the Communism all together and embrace freedom, it would mean even more prosperity.


Ruby, communism evolves into 'socially responsible capitalism'. China will do it slowly and cautiously to prevent from falling to greedy US style capitalism.

Why would they want to when Amercans are making it clear that they hate their corrupt government.

there's been far too much said by Americans on this forum for you to get away with doubletalk Ruby.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
RubyHypatia
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 1858
Location: Greer, SC
Joined: May 12th, 2011
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #112 - May 9th, 2018 at 9:58pm
Print Post  
I don't know, Billie.  It will be interesting to see what the future holds for China.  What will happen with a possible trade war?  Can we stop them from stealing intellectual property? 

Little Rocket Man wants an empire as well, and I think he's just going to wait out the Trump presidency.  It will be interesting to see what happens there in N. Korea as well.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Don_G
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 9992
Location: British Columbia
Joined: May 8th, 2017
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #113 - May 9th, 2018 at 10:15pm
Print Post  
RubyHypatia wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
I don't know, Billie.  It will be interesting to see what the future holds for China.  What will happen with a possible trade war?  Can we stop them from stealing intellectual property? 


YOu should be asking, can the US stop China's climb to be the globe's economic super power, eclipsing the US?  I always suggest that the only way is with US military might. But I always warn that that has a prohibitive price. Glass parking lots are of no use for centuries.

Quote:
Little Rocket Man wants an empire as well, and I think he's just going to wait out the Trump presidency.  It will be interesting to see what happens there in N. Korea as well.


I've tried to get some of you engaged in that discussion but it appears you all fear it as a trap or something?

Kim has released 3 of his bargaining chips for Trump to use as a political gain to brag about. Did Trump give something in return? Even a promise?

Here's Kim's gameplan: Trade off his nuclear arsenal for South Korea's. What do you think Ruby? Are you brighter than you come off as being so far?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Billie
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 29359
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #114 - May 10th, 2018 at 1:47pm
Print Post  
RubyHypatia wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
I don't know, Billie.  It will be interesting to see what the future holds for China.  What will happen with a possible trade war?  Can we stop them from stealing intellectual property? 

One of China's first Imperial acquisitions will be Korea, all of it. It's in the 30 Year Plan.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Don_G
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 9992
Location: British Columbia
Joined: May 8th, 2017
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #115 - May 10th, 2018 at 1:53pm
Print Post  
Sickler's right Ruby. China is going to take back the Korean peninsula within the 30 years.

China is also consolidated a huge presense in Cuba, at Cuba's invite and pleasure. There's a chance that China will trade off Cuba for Korea. But they may not even have to trade!
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
RubyHypatia
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 1858
Location: Greer, SC
Joined: May 12th, 2011
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #116 - May 10th, 2018 at 5:29pm
Print Post  
South Korea won't fall to China, the U.S. won't let that happen.  Don't know what Little Rocket Man would do about a Chinese invasion, N. Korean troops are starving and in no condition to fight a war.  China in Cuba?  What would they do there?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Billie
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 29359
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #117 - May 10th, 2018 at 7:50pm
Print Post  
RubyHypatia wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 5:29pm:
South Korea won't fall to China, the U.S. won't let that happen.
You're certain Congress will authorize war with China over Korea, or just convinced The Donald will do it on his own with his pen and phone?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Don_G
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 9992
Location: British Columbia
Joined: May 8th, 2017
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #118 - May 10th, 2018 at 8:56pm
Print Post  
RubyHypatia wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 5:29pm:
South Korea won't fall to China, the U.S. won't let that happen.  Don't know what Little Rocket Man would do about a Chinese invasion, N. Korean troops are starving and in no condition to fight a war.  China in Cuba?  What would they do there?


Your answers are far too concentrated on your patriotism Ruby, and so they're not objective at all.

We're not talking about South Korea falling to China, we're trying to talk about what N.K's nuclear bargaining power will buy for Kim.

My reference to Cuba was speculating on China installing nuclear weapons there in the future. I can see them posing an argument for the US taking down the S.K. missile systems in return.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Don_G
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 9992
Location: British Columbia
Joined: May 8th, 2017
Re: Government Is "God" To The Left
Reply #119 - May 10th, 2018 at 8:58pm
Print Post  
Billie wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 7:50pm:
You're certain Congress will authorize war with China over Korea, or just convinced The Donald will do it on his own with his pen and phone?


She could be because she's full of gung-ho US military power and patriotism. She's not speaking on your level yet.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 ... 10 11 [12] 13 14 
Send TopicPrint
 
Libertarian's ForumLibertarian's ForumFreedom Forum › Government Is "God" To The Left
Libertarian's Forum

Libertarian's Forum Information Rules, Agreement and Privacy Policy